Question about Charter schools...

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In Washington state, there's an Initiative on the ballot to approve a charter school system, which would approve 8 charter schools per year, for 5 years (a total of 40)...

I'm leery about this, but I'm not completely educated on the differences between public schools and charter schools. I know that they're both publicly funded and tuition-free, with the difference being that they're usually founded by a non-public entity, and they don't adhere to some of the rules and regulations that traditional public schools must follow.

My question is, what are usually the regulations that charter schools are exempt from?

I'm already worried about charter schools taking public funds from the traditional public schools. I also see that this is somewhat of a partisan issue, with Democrats generally opposing charter schools. Also, there's a 50-to-1 campaign funding ratio, as the Pro-Charter Schools campaign is mostly funded by a handful of billionaires from the Puget Sound area

Bill Gates and Paul Allen endorse it, and I trust their moral integrity... but I don't know, brehs.

 

[theworldismine13]

vote yes

 

[sm0ke]

Well, now I'm convinced.

 

[TheHonorableOmarSharif]

Hope this helps:

Charter schools are exempt from most state statutes and regulations that govern other public schools. This exempts them from public disclosure laws; laws and regulations which give parents control over what their child is taught in the classroom; laws that give parents access to curricula, supplemental teaching materials and surveys that their child could be exposed to in the classroom; laws that give parents access to their child's school records; and laws that give parents access to the classroom. Charter schools will also be exempt from laws and regulations that prohibit them from supporting or opposing a ballot issue or candidate.

Some state education reform laws (Washington State being one) also mandate school-to-work as a component part of education reform. This would, then, also become a component part of the charter school.

 

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Well, now I'm convinced.

The gawd emperor has spoken.

I attended a charter school my first two years of high school. My biggest mistake was probably transferring to a public school afterwards. The standards just weren't there at the public school. Most kids in public high school could barely read & never did their homework which took an all of 20 minutes at most per class. While I was an average student at a charter school(B+), I'd get straight A's in public school for just showing effort and if the teacher liked you

Not mention when I was in charter school I'd go to school from 9:40 to 1:30 everyday. I probably would have finished school in 3 years and had college credit, if I stayed and did summer school

 

[sm0ke]

Hope this helps:

The gawd emperor has spoken.

I attended a charter school my first two years of high school. My biggest mistake was probably transferring to a public school afterwards. The standards just weren't there at the public school. Most kids in public high school could barely read & never did their homework which took an all of 20 minutes at most per class. While I was an average student at a charter school(B+), I'd get straight A's in public school for just showing effort and if the teacher liked you

Not mention when I was in charter school I'd go to school from 9:40 to 1:30 everyday. I probably would have finished school in 3 years and had college credit, if I stayed and did summer school

This information helps. I'm going to do a little more research on student performance in our current public schools before I decide. Thanks. If anybody else wants to drop some knowledge, I'll take all I can get.

 

[Spin]

This information helps. I'm going to do a little more research on student performance in our current public schools before I decide. Thanks. If anybody else wants to drop some knowledge, I'll take all I can get.

Keep in mind with Charter schools the kids are actually there longer during the day. This will help keep them off the streets. Another big thing is (some charter schools at least) force parent interaction. I know this one parent who was considering taking her son out of a charter school and back into a public school because the school called her too much . People talk about parent responsibility, I think charter schools help force that.

I support any competition to the public school system. Maybe with more charter schools the public system will finally get their shyt together in fear of losing everything. I don't mind that billionaires support charter schools. Yes it's probably an ego boost to them, but they probably see it as actually helping young people who can be molded vs throwing money at someone grown begging for money who will probably beg for money again after time.

 

[sm0ke]

Keep in mind with Charter schools the kids are actually there longer during the day. This will help keep them off the streets. Another big thing is (some charter schools at least) force parent interaction. I know this one parent who was considering taking her son out of a charter school and back into a public school because the school called her too much . People talk about parent responsibility, I think charter schools help force that.

I support any competition to the public school system. Maybe with more charter schools the public system will finally get their shyt together in fear of losing everything. I don't mind that billionaires support charter schools. Yes it's probably an ego boost to them, but they probably see it as actually helping young people who can be molded vs throwing money at someone grown begging for money who will probably beg for money again after time.

Last night I was actually thinking about the possibility of charter schools creating a fear of losing funding in the public schools, and lighting a fire under their asses to increase academic performance by students and provide a more attractive program. I think I'll be voting yes on this.

 

[Serious]

Keep in mind with Charter schools the kids are actually there longer during the day.

depends. They have different strokes for different folks. Theoretically they have classes in circulation from 6am to 9pm.

But most kids schedules differed depending on their preferences.

I knew people went to school from
6:30am to 12:30pm
8: 15am to 2:30
9:40am to 2:30
8:15am to 5pm
11am to 8pm

Really depends on the individual. A lot of the teachers were gifted. Very enthusiastic and passionate about their job.

They had an abundance of technology at their disposal.

But a lot of kids who went to school from 9:40 to 2:30 and still got into a bunch of sh*t. (Hardcore Drugs)(vandalism) (theft) aka still ended up on streets....

If I knew what I knew now. I would have graduated in 3 years though. Literally it's setup to point where it's logical feasible. Especially with block scheduling. @ public school from 8 to 3pm.

IMO, I performed a lot better going to school from 9:40 to 2:30 everyday. That's my preferred class schedule in college too....

 

[Spin]

depends. They have different strokes for different folks. Theoretically they have classes in circulation from 6am to 9pm.

But most kids schedules differed depending on their preferences.

I knew people went to school from
6:30am to 12:30pm
8: 15am to 2:30
9:40am to 2:30
8:15am to 5pm
11am to 8pm

Really depends on the individual. A lot of the teachers were gifted. Very enthusiastic and passionate about their job.

They had an abundance of technology at their disposal.

But a lot of kids who went to school from 9:40 to 2:30 and still got into a bunch of sh*t. (Hardcore Drugs)(vandalism) (theft) aka still ended up on streets....

If I knew what I knew now. I would have graduated in 3 years though. Literally it's setup to point where it's logical feasible. Especially with block scheduling. @ public school from 8 to 3pm.

IMO, I performed a lot better going to school from 9:40 to 2:30 everyday. That's my preferred class schedule in college too....

In any system there will be those that still will be screw ups, but at least the probabilities will be MUCH higher for success in a charter school. The custom schedules are fine as long as work is being done. Like you mentioned, passionate teachers make a big difference. Sure you will have those parents argue about public schools that do great (mostly in suburbs or specialized), but for minorities I believe charter schools are great. Like I mentioned before, just the competition alone might inspire the public schools to get their act together.

 

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From my experience, public school teachers, themselves get a bad wrap. They're also stuck in a line of work, where they have to do more with less. Ultimately, it comes down to the administration. I've had some passionate innovative teachers in public school that would rival charter school teacher. The deciding factor tends to be the moral among students. It just wasn't there. Students only went to public school, because they had to vs. charter schools where kids never wanted to leave, or looked forward to it every day.

All goes back to the general upbringing, instilled morals from parents. The solution IDK, I can't even really "speak on it" because I'm just some "suburban middle class" black dude. I don't really know what goes in urban demographics....

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

It blows my mind that the washington ballot includes a new govenor, president, gay marriage, weed legalization, attorney general, and this....shyt is crazy


Btw

Jay Inslee seems like a fukking goofball...he was awful in the gubernatorial debate

 

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@sm0ke @Ed MOTHERfukkING G @nalej

do any of you cat remember when this scandal was going on?

Gay sex scandal rocks Spokane - seattlepi.com

what was the sentiment like up there.......

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

@sm0ke @Ed MOTHERfukkING G @nalej

do any of you cat remember when this scandal was going on?

Gay sex scandal rocks Spokane - seattlepi.com

what was the sentiment like up there.......

I moved here in 09 but them or @illadope might remember

 

[illadope]

I don't keep up with sex scandals and Spokane is lame so that shyt don't surprise me one bit :pacaha: