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First of all negro in Spanish is not Niger. Niger is an African word that has somehow been attributed to Arabs. A lot of Spanish words have been adopted from Arabic, but they are not Spanish. However the word is a Berber word. Berbers live in North and West Africa. Leo Africanus never said he named the Niger River. He only mentioned the Niger River in his writings. You are confusing him mentioning the River with him actually naming it. He did not name it.. The specific Berber clan that the river's name is attributed to are the Tuareg. The Tuareg word for the river is erereou n-igerouen or river of rivers. So a White man did not name that river.

Where are getting Spanish from? I said Latin. The root word for black in Latin is nigrum.

Iā€™m not confusing anything. I quoted an online text. Argue with Leo Africanus, not me breh.

Lastly, I donā€™t believe in coincidences. You up in arms because you donā€™t want to accept that Europeans couldā€™ve named the River. Thatā€™s not the mindset you should have when it comes to history. You look for truth regardless of feelings. For me, itā€™s strange that Africans would ever use the word ā€œNigerā€, a word thatā€™s not found in most African languages, to describe a River. The African words for the Niger River donā€™t come close to sounding like Niger breh. They named it after their gods :rudy: which implies Niger came from elsewhere. To continue, itā€™s also a strange coincidence that Niger is a prominent word in Latin and itā€™s base term means black. Lastly, the Berbers had frequent contact with the Latin speaking world soooooooooo they couldā€™ve still easily gotten the word that way. Since thereā€™s no definitive answer, weā€™ll be arguing forever.
 
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Where are getting Spanish from? I said Latin. The root word for black in Latin is nigrum.

Iā€™m not confusing anything. I quoted an online text. Argue with Leo Africanus, not me breh.

Lastly, I donā€™t believe in coincidences. You up in arms because you donā€™t want to accept that Europeans couldā€™ve named the River. Thatā€™s not the mindset you should have when it comes to history. You look for truth regardless of feelings. For me, itā€™s strange that Africans would ever use the word ā€œNigerā€, a word thatā€™s not found in most African languages, to describe a River. And itā€™s more strange that it is however a prominent word in Latin and itā€™s base term means black. Lastly, the Berbers had frequent contact with the Latin speaking world soooooooooo they still couldā€™ve easily gotten the word that way. Since thereā€™s no definitive answer, weā€™ll be arguing with no end.

Niger is not Latin. It has been attributed to Arabs, but it is not their word either. The word is in Tuareg which I just showed you.

The Arabs invaded the land of the Berbers during the Mohammedian conquests which is how Islam got into North and West Africa which led to a conflating of languages and cross use of words. The word got into Spanish through Arabic. White people did not name the Niger River. They were told the name of the river in Mali.
 

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The Mad King :picard:


rather than using a modern setting with space for the man to actually move, brits would rather have that man awkwardly perched oversized-bird-like on a ramshackle child-sized table, because some royal started doing the same crazy thing at sometime is the distant past.

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because ... tradition !
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Niger is not Latin. It has been attributed to Arabs, but it is not their word either. The word is in Tuareg which I just showed you.

The Arabs invaded the land of the Berbers during the Mohammedian conquests which is how Islam got into North and West Africa which led to a conflating of languages and cross use of words. The word got into Spanish through Arabic. White people did not name the Niger River. They were told the name of the river in Mali.

Breh, you saying something doesnā€™t make it law.

What I quoted to you says the Berbers ā€œmayā€ have coined the term. Not definitive. Not something that is indisputable. But may. And then it says, Leo Africanus ā€œmayā€ have also coined the term.

Since no one knows without a doubt, Iā€™m willing to bet it came from Latin because it sounds more familiar to their word for black. As youā€™ve just said, Berbers absorbed many words over the millennia due to being conquered and by being across the sea from Asia and Europe. Even if we say it came by way of Berbers, they still might have picked it up from Latin speakers.

You think otherwise though. Itā€™s cool breh. NBD :yeshrug:
 

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Breh, you saying something doesnā€™t make it law.

What I quoted to you says the Berbers ā€œmayā€ have coined the term. Not definitive. Not something that is indisputable. But may. And then it says, Leo Africanus ā€œmayā€ have also coined the term.

Since no one knows without a doubt, Iā€™m willing to bet it came from Latin because it sounds more familiar to their word for black. As youā€™ve just said, Berbers absorbed many words over the millennia due to being conquered and by being across the sea from Asia and Europe. Even if we say it came by way of Berbers, they still might have picked it up from Latin speakers.

You think otherwise though. Itā€™s cool breh. NBD :yeshrug:

But you are the one that came into thread to educate us about what Niger means. Talking about it is Latin and it means Black like that was law. The word is not even Latin and Leo Africanus never claimed that he created the name or coined it.
 

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But you are the one that came into thread to educate us about what Niger means. Talking about it is Latin and it means Black like that was law. The word is not even Latin and Leo Africanus never claimed that he created the name or coined it.

Evidence says otherwise breh. And I actually was talking about ā€œNigg3rā€, not Niger. Itā€™s on you to prove itā€™s not from Latin, not me. Thereā€™s tons on articles that proved this already. I mean think about this real quick. How can Nigg3r come from Latin but not Niger :skip: Anyone who can read understands that nigrum sounds like Niger and Nigg3r. Cacs just took a word that essentially means black and made it an evil word.
 

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@Samori Toure Here you go breh

https://aaregistry.org/story/******-the-word-a-brief-history/

The history of the word ****** is often traced to the Latin word niger, meaning Black. This word became the noun, Negro (Black person) in English, and simply the color Black in Spanish and Portuguese. In early modern French, niger became negre and, later, negress (Black woman) was unmistakably a part of language history. One can compare to negre the derogatory ****** and earlier English substitutes such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor that developed into its lexico-semantic true version in English. It is probable that ****** is a phonetic spelling of the White Southern mispronunciation of Negro.

No matter what its origins were, by the early 1800s, it was firmly established as a derogative name. In the 21st century, it remains a principal term of White racism, regardless of who is using it. Social scientists agree that words like ******, kike, spic, and wetback come from three categories: disparaging nicknames (chink, dago, ******); explicit group devaluations ("Jew him down" or "******ing the land"); and irrelevant ethnic names used as a mild disparagement ("jew bird" for cuckoos having prominent beaks or "Irish confetti" for bricks thrown in a fight.)
 
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