Put some respek on J. Cole name

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I respect Cole as a man and like some of his messages but this remains my view of him as an artist
Why is JCole mediocre?

What exactly is he great at? Nas and Andre 3000 are great at evocative, "project window" type lyricism. Hov has a great, dynamic flow. Ghostface is a great storyteller. Scarface has great delivery and thought provoking lyrics. What's Cole's strength? He dabbles quite a bit in punchline raps but is too corny to be great at it. His storytelling is very non personal and colorless. His flow is fine.
so this is ''non-personal'' and colorless storytelling?



and i guess he got no punchlines either

 

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He's good but not great. He suffers from the same thing as Drake: He hasn't grown up.

He's 30 still making college dorm music. Drake is almost 30 and still reminiscing about old tings. His production for himself is still p mundane. He's produced better stuff for other rappers in the past. He is a more sober and CDQ version of Blu, always has been but that never stopped me from listening to him. Want my respek? Stop mentioning flatulence in your rhymes.
 

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so this is ''non-personal'' and colorless storytelling?



and i guess he got no punchlines either



Yea outside of 03 Adolescence. Lost Ones is a bad song that really puts his ugly views on women on display to me. And even there she's "just another bytch" like most women in his music. The article I posted is spot on. It's always this bytch, that ho, etc. shyt is just tiring and everything feels faceless and non personal.

I'm not saying Cole doesn't have songs I like. 03 Adolescence is a good song for instance. But again I ask, what does he do great? The entire image he has built for himself revolves around being a serious lyricist yet as a rapper he's not really impressive. As with Joey Badass he has a lot of rappity rap songs that just don't hit me with memorable lines. Nor does he have many songs I'd consider truly great.
 

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Another thing I dislike: Cole has arguably the worst album collection of any new-ish rapper we're supposed to respect. His first album is straight up bad, lyrically as well as production. Born Sinner is a bit more ambitious in a "more instruments" way but overall is a forgettable album. Meanwhile FHD is a solid album that also suffers from him once again trying to make his own version of [insert something Kanye did]. For instance the last song on the album is his Last Call.

For comparison Drake's first album is bad, and his latest album is weak...but he has some solid to good albums in between. Kendrick has two great albums. Joey Badass' debut album is solid. On the gangsta side of things Freddie Gibbs has a couple really good albums and YG's debut is great. Even Wale has better albums than Cole.

Cole even admits he fukked up with the first two albums on The Combat Jack Show.
the thing about Drake's first album...its bad as an album...but EVERY SONG...borderline genre defining.

shyts weird to me. I LOVE the songs as themselves. I do not like it as a body of work.
 

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My nikka writes his own lyrics, makes his own beats, been making good singles, getting album sales, still got bars, doesn't try to pretend to be anything he isn't.. I just don't see how a true hip hop fan can't respect this guy. Call him boring all you want and I will admit Born Sinner was a bit shaky imo but theres definitely a plethora of jewels in his discog keep it funky















how creative was it to spit over last call then talk about he got to roc nation the same way ye did :mindblown:





always delivered when he was supposed to, couldn't find a star is born on youtube but you get the gist





he one of the last real ones brehs, lettuce pay homage


Plus he was brave enough to marry a complete stranger. Too bad he and Vanessa couldn't work it out.
 
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