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Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread
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But is it "no sand nikkas" or "no sand cacs"?
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So Kristaps was more to blame, you're really delusional about Melo. The Knicks turned the ball over 4 more times than the Mavs, and as a team they shot 34-66 without him chucking his way to yet another 33% night. He's not being paid to post Otto Porter numbers, he's a max contract and hasn't played like a max guy at all this season, yet you continue to give him passes while trying to shyt on a rookie. KP gets a pass this year, could he have rebounded better? Sure, but he's a damn rookie and you're more critical of his play than you are of Melo
Dallas got 1 more point off of turnovers than NY did (13 to NY's 12). Besides that, 13 turnovers aren't gonna cost you a game and it didn't last night. 'Melo doesn't get paid the max and NY knew he needed knee surgery before they paid him what they did pay him, just like Wes Matthews and many others. He could've renegotiated his contract next season when the cap will go way up, like Lj will do. Instead, he locked himself into a 4-year deal, leaving buku millions on the table to spend on talent. Plus, that additional $5M he chose not to take. On top of that, he has a no-trade clause. Otto isn't averaging 21.5 ppg, 7 rpg (1.2 offensive rpg), 0.5 bpg, 1 spg, 3.3 apg, 86.6% from the line, 34.6% from 3, on 1 knee and after having missed 42 games, and playing elite defense. Otto isn't giving that kind of production on 2 knees.
Now, back to the game. 'Melo isn't the one who gave up 104 points on 45% from the field and 42% from 3 to Dallas and a Dallas team high 25 points on 50% from the field and 50% from 3 to old-man Dirk. He isn't 7'3'' with 2 rebounds on a night when NY was out-rebounded by 6. Defense and rebounding is about effort and KP never gives the effort to guard his man. All he does is roam for blocks. Rolo roams for blocks and guards his man. KP also didn't give any effort on the boards. There's no excuse for that. You can't help it when shots don't fall, especially when you're always doubled because you don't play with anyone and when you're recovering from serious knee surgery and having missed more than half a season. Not only that, KP is a poor defender, but y'all act like he's not.
Someone said KP has a post game. No he doesn't. 'Melo and Arron have a post game. You don't have a post game when you turn it over every time you dribble. What he has is post moves that 'Melo taught him over the summer. Not to mention the wide open looks 'Melo gives KP from distracting defenses. You can't throw 'Melo under buss all you want, but if he waives his no-trade clause, you'll be waiving goodbye to KP's efficiency and he will go right back to shooting in the 30's. He's no Towns.
And no, I'm not more critical of KP than 'Melo. Everyone gets equal critique with me. You weren't complaining when I brought up 'Melo's shooting in the games where NY lost because of offense (most of them). I even said he was partly to blame for the loss against the Bucks the other night. The difference is, y'all tried to claim that 'Melo was the only one to blame for the loss. KP isn't the only one to blame for last night's loss, but 'Melo isn't to blame at all, as offense did not cost them. No one complains when I say Arron's defense is trash this season. Y'all only shed tears when it's your precious Teflon P. Y'all just can't take it when KP's imperfections are mentioned. Y'all used to cry over Gallo, but now y'all are comfortable with pointing out his shooting. KP doesn't get a pass for giving no effort. There's no excuse for that. 'Melo gets a pass for his knee. He gives effort no matter what. The type of effort he gives on defense and rebounding is exactly what he's paid to do.
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If only Taps-P had a reliable scorer next to him
Taps-P would go back to shooting in the 30's if that unreliable scorer wasn't there to distract defenses, giving him all those wide open shots.
@ZemaPromos you putting in work. They won't acknowledge that porzingis is benefitting off the attention Melo gets
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And you feel this type of performance is worth $25 Million a year?
With elite defense and on 1 knee, of course. It's also worth the millions he won't get when the cap goes up. He should have renegotiated his contract when the cap goes up, like Lj will do. Not only that, those aren't his averages. His averages are even better. If we're gonna talk about this one game, good, let's talk about how defense and rebounding lost the game and 'Melo was one of a few who defended and rebounded. Let's talk about how KP never gives effort on defense, but just roams around for blocks without sticking to his man, while Rolo roams for blocks and guards his man. Let's talk about how KP gave no effort on the boards last night. You can't help when shots don't fall, especially when you're the focal point of defenses and you're coming off a serious knee surgery and having missed 42 games. What you can control is effort. KP is getting paid while not giving effort in some areas. 'Melo gives effort in every area, making him worthy of every penny he gets, and then some. Lastly, let's talk about how 'Melo is so good that he commands all the attention of the defense, giving KP wide open shots (especially last night).
Way too much to read
I didn't read it but I'm sure Melo is infallible, he can't do anything wrong and it's the rookies fault for losses, yes, the rookie.
@ZemaPromos You think Dirk was bad yesterday?
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Whoaaa ok hold on Kris P. The Ghost damn sure plays defense and tries to I have to say something about that. He racked up fouls like crazy early in the season because he plays D and had to adjust to the nba game. He had an off night on the rebounding but, is 1 rebound away from averaging a double double for the season. Dude consistently has put up 12 boards or more for a lot of this 22 game season. Not trying to do the back n forth thing cause I don't have any issues with you we're all here because we're Knick fans.
No, KP does not play defense. All he does is roam around for blocks without sticking to his man, while Rolo roams for blocks and guards his man. Blocks and rebounds don't make you a defender. That's why I always add "elite defense" whenever I mention 'Melo's blocks, steals, or rebounds. Harden is great at steals and terrible on defense.
If you foul a lot, it's because you're a poor defender. Take O'Quinn, he doesn't even know the defensive stance. He just leans in on his opponent and keeps poking at the ball, just begging for a foul to be called, which is why he averages 2 fouls in 13 mins. He doesn't know to squat and move his feet laterally.
KP not only gives no effort to guard his man, as he never even guards any one person for a whole game or even most it, but when he does try, he's poor at it. He's a decent shot-blocker and a decent rebounder for his height, and at his height and with his wingspan, he should be better.
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What does LeBron have to do with Melo shooting 6-18, 5 turnovers and the Knicks losing?
He's a 2x champion, people will always cut champs slack.......
He's been getting passes and excuses made for him his entire career.
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@ZemaPromos You think Dirk was bad yesterday?
When did I say that? I said the opposite. He was better than usual and that's KP's fault.
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Not true. NY shot better than they did from the field and similarly from 3. Dallas still had no problem out-rebounding NY, especially on the offensive glass.
But... if Dirk was BETTER than usual...
And he's a still efficient future HOFer...
But He let Porzingis drop 28...
How come an efficient hof was better than usual but a projected project was bad?
Por is playing well for one reason...he's better than all of us expected
You look funny in the light.
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This is absolutely false. All that has been said is he was one reason for last night's loss. It's unacceptable to say that about him and it's crazy. Him being a "project" is no excuse for lack of effort and "projects" aren't drafted at #4.
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He certainly wasn't.
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Tremendously. He was shooting in the 30's before Arron came back.