Put Some Hornacek On Our Game: 2016 New York Knicks Offseason Thread

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Hubie lied. NY doesn't have 6 new players. They have 8. Don't know if BK really has 8. Don't care.
 

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Just saw the game recap :obama:, damn I wish I could've watched that. Hopefully the ESPN replay will still be up by time I get around to it.
 
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What a great game all around. Back to our winning ways, obviously it was against two of the worst teams in the league, but that's the way it should be, we shouldn't be battlingt terrible teams, we should blow them out just like we did.

The schedule has gotten so much easier these next 10 games, no reason why we shouldn't win atleast 7 or 8 of them. I would really like to see this team 18-12 or 17-13 by our 30th game.

Now on to melo, I know some of you having been roasting him lately, and some of it is well deserved. He has been inconsistent as hell this season and I don't know much longer he can use the "legs under him" excuse any longer. I still want him on this team, he finally has a legit 2nd and 3rd option. I really hope he starts producing more consistently these next 10 games.

Afflalo is coming into his own pretty quickly, i love his game. He knows his role, needs about a good 10-15 shots a game and if he can average about 15-20 a game we good Great pick up by phil.

What more can you say about KP. These 20,10,3 games might become a nightly thing for him. What he is doing this year, is what I expected in his 3rd year. You can tell, he is learning fast and he is gonna take the roll of the franchise player with ease and will embrace it. I know we gotta vote two fowards for the all star game, what are the chances NYC can unite and vote him in.

'Melo has raised his fg% by 5% in the last 10 games and it was 7% higher before he got Strep Throat. He could be shooting like trash the rest of the season if that's all his legs will give him. Who are you to determine when he should be healthy? Are you a doctor? No one just coincidentally plays worse after a major surgery and missing 42 games.

'Melo is producing. He is the best defender on his team (holding 44.4% shooters to 34.7% which is 9.8% below their average), switching back and forth between 1st and 2nd on the team in assists, averaging 21.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg (1.3 offensive rpg), 0.5 bpg, 1 spg, 86.4% from the line, 36.3% from 3, and as I said, his fg% is steadily increasing. How you could come for his "production" after he outplayed every player on the court last night is confusing.

KP is not a 2nd or 3rd option. He cannot create his own shot and relies on 'Melo to get him open shots. He admitted this himself in his interview after last night's game, you can see his wide open shots on film, Bosh pointed it out, and KP even took a shot at Bosh for pointing out that teams are ignoring him because of 'Melo by saying Miami did the same thing, noting that his 1st shot in Miami was wide open (which was probably the only open one he got, the rest were off of mismatches and he didn't shoot well that night, he never does against Miami or any team with bigs who defend, for that matter).

He also relies on 'Melo and others to set picks to get him open. A reporter pointed that out last night in 'Melo's post-game interview. He also relies on Arron to distract defenses (an example is at the 8 min mark of the 3rd quarter when Arron is triple-teamed, KP is left wide open from 3). KP was shooting in the 30's before Arron came back.

That's why it's dumb to try to use on/off court stats to try to claim that KP makes 'Melo better when he's on the court with him. Here's a stat to disprove that: 'Melo is shooting the lowest fg% of his career playing with KP. If we are not going to blame that on KP, then let's not give KP credit when 'Melo shoots well. Another thing that disproves it: defenses never help off 'Melo to double KP, leaving 'Melo open, but defenses do help off KP to double 'Melo, leaving KP open all the time.

Arron is the 2nd option. He is not "coming into his own". He's just getting healthy. He shot above 45% for his career before he came to NY.

Before KP can be a franchise player, he needs to learn how to create his own shot without turning it over. He needs to learn how to score consistently without being open from players distracting defenses, mismatches (he had a mismatch all night against BK, no one with any size guarded him), or players setting picks for him.

Before y'all catch feelings, I still love KP. I noted those things because it appears you're trying to throw 'Melo under the bus for KP again and every time I see it, I will :cape:.
It is what it is. :yeshrug:
 
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Afflalo deserved props brehs.

If we could get a perimeter defender though...

Breh I agree 100% that's why I keep saying they should go after Batum and put him in the Lance Thomas spot. Lance is eating well out there as a garbage man/glue guy defender and he's not that good. Put Batum in there and the knicks legit have the best small ball lineup in the East and some legit depth if they go big.

:whew:

All they would need is an upgrade at PG and they have prospects on the team already and 2018 is a very good PG FA class
 

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'Melo has raised his fg% by 5% in the last 10 games and it was 7% before he got Strep Throat. He could be shooting like trash the rest of the season if that's all his legs will give him. Who are you to determine when he should be healthy? Are you a doctor? No one just coincidentally plays worse after a major surgery and missing 42 games.

'Melo is producing. He is the best defender on his team (holding 44.4% shooters to 34.7% which is 9.8% below their average), switching back and forth between 1st and 2nd on the team in assists, averaging 21.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg (1.3 offensive rpg), 0.5 bpg, 1 spg, 86.4% from the line, 36.3% from 3, and as I said, his fg% is steadily increasing. How you could come for his "production" after he outplayed every player on the court last night is beyond me.

KP is not a 2nd or 3rd option. He cannot create his own shot and relies on 'Melo to get him open shots. He admitted this himself in his interview after last night's game, you can see his wide open shots on film, Bosh pointed it out, and KP even took a shot at Bosh for pointing out that teams are ignoring him because of 'Melo by saying Miami did the same thing, noting that his 1st shot in Miami was wide open (which was probably the only open one he got, the rest were off of mismatches and he didn't shoot well that night, he never does against Miami or any team with bigs who defend, for that matter).

He also relies on 'Melo and others to set picks to get him open. A reporter pointed that out last night in 'Melo's post-game interview. He also relies on Arron to distract defenses (an example is at the 8 min mark of the 3rd quarter when Arron is triple-teamed, KP is left wide open from 3). KP was shooting in the 30's before Arron came back.

That's why it's dumb to try to use on/off court stats to try to claim that KP makes 'Melo better when he's on the court with him. Here's a stat to disprove that: 'Melo is shooting the lowest fg% of his career playing with KP. If we are not going to blame that on KP, then let's not give KP credit when 'Melo shoots well. Another thing that proves it is defenses never help off 'Melo to double KP, leaving 'Melo open, but defenses do help off KP to double 'Melo, leaving KP open all the time.

Arron is the 2nd option. He is not "coming into his own". He's just getting healthy. He shot above 45% for his career before he came to NY.

Before KP can be a franchise player, he needs to learn how to create his own shot without turning it over. He needs to learn how to score consistently without being open from players distracting defenses, mismatches (he had a mismatch all night, no one with any size guarded him), or players setting picks for him.

Before y'all catch feelings, I still love KP. I noted those things because it appears you're trying to throw 'Melo under the bus for KP again and every time I see it, I will :cape:.
It is what it is. :yeshrug:
Well I cosign the melo defense , and realize he's a huge reason KP can do some of the stuff he does since he's always going to demand attention ...I do think your being alittle harsh on KP . He is a second option and yes Affalo makes everyone better since unlike Sasha he can actually hit wide open shots and play some defense.
 

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lets keep the run goin,n if your not down....

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