Prove to me Jay Z is the Best Lyricist

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Ya nikkas can't be serious right now
He the the all time heavy weight champion of flows
lead the league in at least six statistical categories right now
Best flow, Most consistent, Realest stories
Most charisma, set the most trends
And his interviews are hotter
Holla
Nah, that shhit lowkey kinda all facts tho, lol.

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but this hate for jay from the south is forced and corny breh

Not the South certain people from the South. Theres a laundry list of people Jay has worked with from the South and got a lot of love/respect for him.

Not directing this comment at you: But its like Gucci or Big Gipps opinion on Jay cancel out 40 other southern rappers who loved him.

Im from Alabama and I knew he was a problem when I heard the Streets is Watching sound track.


I wouldnt say hes the best lyricists. There some guys who I think lyrically are better than him (Nas, Lupe)....


The music is right there for you. Everybody hears things differently, and the types of lyricism that impresses one the most, might not do it for another.

Nothing anybody posts is going to change your mind.

This too. Nas, Pac, Cube, Jay, and Scarface are my top 5. But if you think any of them are trash...i could quote AEOM, Illmatic, DC, AG, and Diary all day long. If you think they trash...me copying and pasting a verse wont change your mind lol. For example, Im not impressed by Llyod Banks and his fans could post a 1000 verses and id be like "its cool man, but that shyt dont move me."

I heard Jay say in an interview that lyrics (who think is best) is "just what you like". None of the dudes i mentioned or Dre 3K or K dot or whoever approach the art the same. So if you like emotion and vividness youll graviate towards Face. If you like internal rhyme schemes and fast rapping youll gravitate towards EM. If you like technical prowess youll love Lupe or Thought as lyricists (artist is another convo).

Jay shines to me with his flow (in the sense his flow usually matches a part of the track like the drum lines), his humor, his entendres, his willingness to let the beat breath at times, his metaphors, and his authenticy.

He always been dope to me. That said i remember people at my Jr high and high school who didnt see the big deal at all lol.
 

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Lupe more complex

Kendrick has more to say

Andre is more creative

Push is better at rapping about dope

Nas is the GOAT NY rapper

What does Jay do better than anyone else? :jbhmm:

- Lupe is amazing...and derivative of Jay, by his own admission

- Kendrick is a great poet and excells in musicality but he doesn’t belong in this conversation. He’s not even better than Ab-Soul in that respect.



- Andre is a part time sniper, you gotta put up a certain amount of shots to qualify for certain awards

- Push is also limited and derivative of Jay and only has dope to rap about.

- Nas/Jay-z is like Batman/Superman. The most comparable legacies and everyone will have their preference between the two, but Batman benefits from being the underdog, from being that iconic without being nearly as powerful.

Jay will always have an edge on Nas to the general public, no matter how much prep time or plot armor you lend to Nas stans

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Not the South certain people from the South. Theres a laundry list of people Jay has worked with from the South and got a lot of love/respect for him.

Not directing this comment at you: But its like Gucci or Big Gipps opinion on Jay cancel out 40 other southern rappers who loved him.

Im from Alabama and I knew he was a problem when I heard the Streets is Watching sound track.


I wouldnt say hes the best lyricists. There some guys who I think lyrically are better than him (Nas, Lupe)....




This too. Nas, Pac, Cube, Jay, and Scarface are my top 5. But if you think any of them are trash...i could quote AEOM, Illmatic, DC, AG, and Diary all day long. If you think they trash...me copying and pasting a verse wont change your mind lol. For example, Im not impressed by Llyod Banks and his fans could post a 1000 verses and id be like "its cool man, but that shyt dont move me."

I heard Jay say in an interview that lyrics (who think is best) is "just what you like". None of the dudes i mentioned or Dre 3K or K dot or whoever approach the art the same. So if you like emotion and vividness youll graviate towards Face. If you like internal rhyme schemes and fast rapping youll gravitate towards EM. If you like technical prowess youll love Lupe or Thought as lyricists (artist is another convo).

Jay shines to me with his flow (in the sense his flow usually matches a part of the track like the drum lines), his humor, his entendres, his willingness to let the beat breath at times, his metaphors, and his authenticy.

He always been dope to me. That said i remember people at my Jr high and high school who didnt see the big deal at all lol.
Four pages of yapping but we've finally got an answer with substance

I should've known it'd take a bama breh to make shyt make sense :ehh:

Everybody else too scary to make their case in fear of what I might say :wow:
 
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