Pro-Palestinian activists are trying to cancel Beyonce for screening her concert-movie in Israel

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The thing I don't get is how this conflict got so big. This genocide's been happening for as long as my grandma's been alive.


There's no way people are giving up food, technology and cosmetics.

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These are the same people that will shout from the mountaintops that there are no good billionaires.

That they are surprised by this doesn't really pass the smell test. It's online handwringing for engagement.
I hate the lingo alone

Just slinging certain words like spaces and twisting “freedom” and “colonialism” and apartheid, and tropes from the same “queer” activists boiling everything down to power dynamics and misgynoir and whatever else they have conjured up to elevate Beyonce as some fukking superhero



Everything is some weird march towards some ambiguous future of the odd and ugly

Its parasocial mental illness
 

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I feel for the Palestinians (not Hamas) but when other Muslim/Arab countries do business with Israel and "normalize" relations with them (instead of treating them like an apartheid state) how can you expect a pop singer to have higher morals than other Muslim/Arab nations? :francis:

The whole "Why should I care when Arabs/Muslims don't" is a lazy cop-out.

First of all it's their governments normalizing relations, not the people. Any sane adult with a minimum of education should know that no government anywhere cares about morals and whatnot, only about their interest. Second of all, the idea that Arabs/Muslims should all care about each other is idiotic, unless you consider that all Arabs/Muslims are the same. Do you also think that all Whites/Christians care about each other? Because then I would invite you to open any history book. Hell, vast majority of Muslims aren't even Arabs, and a good chunk of Arabs aren't Muslims. And anyway it makes no sense because in Arab and Muslim countries where people can actually hold demonstrations there has been tons of mobilisation. So the argument is not only stupid but unbased.

The real question is rather why would anyone set their own morals based on what others do. "Why should I care when X/Y/Z doesn't?" just shows me you have no values, morals nor spine and can't think for yourself.
 

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These are the same people that will shout from the mountaintops that there are no good billionaires.

That they are surprised by this doesn't really pass the smell test. It's online handwringing for engagement.
A lot of people have blind spots when it comes to certain people/things they like. There will always be incongruities where humans are concerned, because humans aren't perfect. That doesn't me we always have to take the bad faith approach in these conversations. It's why I don't think you should jump to the assumption that they're only signaling.

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So fukking what if they're calling out Beyonce? I'm sick of some of you phony ass dudes twisting everything in support of fukking Israel.
 

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The whole "Why should I care when Arabs/Muslims don't" is a lazy cop-out.

First of all it's their governments normalizing relations, not the people. Any sane adult with a minimum of education should know that no government anywhere cares about morals and whatnot, only about their interest. Second of all, the idea that Arabs/Muslims should all care about each other is idiotic, unless you consider that all Arabs/Muslims are the same. Do you also think that all Whites/Christians care about each other? Because then I would invite you to open any history book. Hell, vast majority of Muslims aren't even Arabs, and a good chunk of Arabs aren't Muslims. And anyway it makes no sense because in Arab and Muslim countries where people can actually hold demonstrations there has been tons of mobilisation. So the argument is not only stupid but unbased.

The real question is rather why would anyone set their own morals based on what others do. "Why should I care when X/Y/Z doesn't?" just shows me you have no values, morals nor spine and can't think for yourself.
Can you not make an argument without insulting people? Very childish... :stopitslime:

Again, if governments don't care about morals etc, then why should a pop singer who's entire career is based on getting the maximum amount of people to like and buy your music?

Why should Beyonce be boycotted or targeted for doing what other businesses and governments do (do business with Israel)? She is neither Arab, nor Muslim, nor Palestinian.

For those who sacrifice the bag to stand on their beliefs, I respect that. But I don't expect that, She is not obligated to adhere to your moral standards, sir.

Hell, her husband threw Kaepernick to the bushes and took NFL money to silence a potential boycott but now she's supposed to be the moral standard for resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict??:heh:
 

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The whole "Why should I care when Arabs/Muslims don't" is a lazy cop-out.

First of all it's their governments normalizing relations, not the people. Any sane adult with a minimum of education should know that no government anywhere cares about morals and whatnot, only about their interest. Second of all, the idea that Arabs/Muslims should all care about each other is idiotic, unless you consider that all Arabs/Muslims are the same. Do you also think that all Whites/Christians care about each other? Because then I would invite you to open any history book. Hell, vast majority of Muslims aren't even Arabs, and a good chunk of Arabs aren't Muslims. And anyway it makes no sense because in Arab and Muslim countries where people can actually hold demonstrations there has been tons of mobilisation. So the argument is not only stupid but unbased.

The real question is rather why would anyone set their own morals based on what others do. "Why should I care when X/Y/Z doesn't?" just shows me you have no values, morals nor spine and can't think for yourself.
because Arabs should care more and they dont because they already fought, and lost

Plus, Palestinians burned the Jordanians, Lebanese, and Egyptians already.

Palestinians keep rejecting deals and keep being offered deals as one of the only perpetual losers who keep being given deals anywhere on earth.
 

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I mean what if she was performing and having a screening in Nazi germany? I’m sure yall nikkas in her would be up in arms, what’s the fukking difference? I say cancel this broad until she take a stance against genocide of the Palestinians. This ain’t no both sides ass issue
 
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