Prison Population Can Shrink When Police Crowd Streets

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

quoting field of dreams like it's some universal maxim

Build It And They Will Come | American Cop Magazine

my JA professor told me that shyt

 

[thekingsmen]

There are no gaps between years anywhere in the "report." I provided the video for lazy people and then quoted specific portions of another article that verifies the report. Second, you initially said that "you really believe that" in that you didn't even believe that there was a decline. Then you brought up random articles to prove your unsubstantiated assertion that it is because of old inmates dying off...as if there are 100,000 inmates dying in prison every year to make up the number.

You have not pointed out anywhere in that research where there are flaws. I'm convinced that you didn't read my post because all your articles verify the latter portion of it. Be reasonable bro.

Actually there is 5 years worth of gaps in these reports. The chart doesn't have 2002,2003,2004, 2006 and 2007. Why are these years not counted?

The articles I brought into the discussion show there is no decline in the population. I brought in an article that mentions older inmates who have been in prison for life. The only time a prison would allow people with life sentences out is if they are dying. The stats you have don't mention anything of who is being let out of prison. Why not assume sick old prisoners? The flaw is telling us there is a decline when there is still over 2 Million people locked up....where is the decline?

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

The prison population is actually slowly on the decline. I forgot where on Bloomberg I saw that a couple weeks ago.

there's basically nothing else the prison population can do at this point. we have more people locked up now than any other country has EVER had locked up in the history of the world. with historically high incarceration rates.

and america has 5% of the worlds population, but 25% of the worlds prison population. 1/4 of the worlds prisoners are here in america.

I could go on and on, america has obviously become a police state. Last time I went to Manhattan I never seen so many cops in one fukking place. This article sounds like thats what they want for the whole country.

the NYtimes

 

[No1]

Actually there is 5 years worth of gaps in these reports. The chart doesn't have 2002,2003,2004, 2006 and 2007. Why are these years not counted?

The articles I brought into the discussion show there is no decline in the population. I brought in an article that mentions older inmates who have been in prison for life. The only time a prison would allow people with life sentences out is if they are dying. The stats you have don't mention anything of who is being let out of prison. Why not assume sick old prisoners? The flaw is telling us there is a decline when there is still over 2 Million people locked up....where is the decline?

How can there be gap in information when the decline didn't start until 2007-2008... It is charting the decline across the decade. The prior years are there strictly to show the beginning of the decade and the peak. All the numbers are there in the actual 10 year % figures.

Why in the world are you talking about prisoners with life sentences as the basis of this discussion, that is a false argument. It isn't about life sentences or not life sentences. The stats I mentioned SPECIFICALLY state who is being let out, you must have missed it. It is NONVIOLENT DRUG OFFENDERS. They are being moved into diversionary programs, drug courts, etc.

That's why if you look, the total prison % has shifted at a higher rate than the actual % of those under some sort of state or government oversight (parole, probation, etc.) Finally, you cannot state that over 2 million people in prison does not mean a decline. If had 10 dollars and now I have 9, that is a decline. You're arguing for the sake of arguing right there, my entire post was geared at saying "this isn't the floodgates opening."

 

[Wise]

More police = more unwarranted and illegal stops of citizens.