"PRINCE would have not being able to get a RECORD DEAL in this era" -OWEN HUSNEY

[TheRtist]

J Cole had music, mixtape, and a fanbase before Jay signed him to Roc Nation. Plus he kept running into Jay and giving him beats. Prince had NOTHING fam.

lies.

a mixtape, yes.

a fanbase. no.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

He'll if he couldn't ..word of mouth 90000 times better than back then..soundcloud..YouTube.

Prince..could frank ocean the game...

 

[Sauce Dab]

theses devils

That makes sense tho. Why would you put money into an artist who hasn't done anything and has no fanbase? It's easier to go after the people who have at least some kind of buzz

 

[Easy-E]

That makes sense tho. Why would you put money into an artist who hasn't done anything and has no fanbase? It's easier to go after the people who have at least some kind of buzz

It's called artist development and A&R

My point is; why sign to a label if you already have all that?

 

[Larry Lambo]

He was always down with control, but he felt like you couldn't control that shyt on the internet.


Quote from Prince

“What I meant was that the internet was over for anyone who wants to get paid, and I was right about that,” he says. “Tell me a musician who’s got rich off digital sales. Apple’s doing pretty good though, right?”

He was alive to witness every change imaginable and still hated it.

That's the one thing that puzzles me a little. Like I understand his position in the early 2000's, but by 2010, cats were making some serious loot with the online sales, streams, Youtube views, etc.

If you're a top 20 artist in terms of popularity (which Prince was for 15+ years), you are banking. I feel like he didn't understand the new financial model for some reason.

 

[Wacky D]

they know they can manufacture sales
they push who they wanna
young prince is a easy push because he does all the heavy work

& in reality young prince would hustle it independent with all the tools available currently

*

THIS

we're living in the era of manufactured fans, in hip-hop at least.

 

[Sauce Dab]

It's called artist development and A&R

My point is; why sign to a label if you already have all that?

Because these artists are still broke and can't afford to travel to do shows and stuff like that

 

[Tom Foolery]

"To convince Warner Brothers that a 17 year old kid should be able to get signed and write and produce his own album with no sales track record ..no shows performed ..is a feat that wouldn't be seen in today's market...."


"In today's market....the record labels want you to bring everything to them on a silver platter...hit records....a healthy fanbase and touring schedule and merchandising to match....and then want you to payback the "advance" they gave you and even after you pay them back...they (the labels) still own your ART (masters)"...

To be fair, prince was a musical prodigy at 17.

Any nikka today can put beats together and mumble rap.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

To be fair, prince was a musical prodigy at 17.

Any nikka today can put beats together and mumble rap.

Exactly

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

In today's market....the record labels want you to bring everything to them on a silver platter...hit records....a healthy fanbase and touring schedule and merchandising to match....and then want you to payback the "advance" they gave you and even after you pay them back...they (the labels) still own your ART (masters)"...

Man you ain't lying with this one.

These record labels are lazier than ever nowadays.

Back in the day labels like motown, LA face, def jam, etc used to fund tours, music videos, professional choreographers, writers, producers, etc.

In today's era labels don't even scout talent anymore. Labels used to hit up the local talent shows to find the talent(before they blew up) & then polish them up.

Labels hardly invest in talent & are not willing to build the ship from the bottom up.

 

[FaTaL]

"To convince Warner Brothers that a 17 year old kid should be able to get signed and write and produce his own album with no sales track record ..no shows performed ..is a feat that wouldn't be seen in today's market...."


"In today's market....the record labels want you to bring everything to them on a silver platter...hit records....a healthy fanbase and touring schedule and merchandising to match....and then want you to payback the "advance" they gave you and even after you pay them back...they (the labels) still own your ART (masters)"...

Prince’s first manager reflects on the music icon’s early days

Prince wouldn't need a label today, he would of been independent from the beginning

 

[dh86]

That's the one thing that puzzles me a little. Like I understand his position in the early 2000's, but by 2010, cats were making some serious loot with the online sales, streams, Youtube views, etc.

If you're a top 20 artist in terms of popularity (which Prince was for 15+ years), you are banking. I feel like he didn't understand the new financial model for some reason.

He did join with Tidal though

 

[Shadow King]

It's called artist development and A&R

My point is; why sign to a label if you already have all that?

Sometimes your buzz can outgrow what you and your 2 friends with business degrees can do. And there's a glass ceiling also.

He did join with Tidal though

Doesn't Tidal give a stake, however big or small, to the artists that sign on? And Prince probably had some extra shyt in the deal for being Prince.

 

[Y.B.E]

I never understood why some of these dudes that SUPPOSEDLY have these huge fanbases like that uzi vert weirdo and 21 savage and all these other non record selling dudes don't just go through bandcamp

Mind you I dont know how much they take out of album sales

But I found this dude Alfa Mist's album on youtube, saw he had like a million views on his album, went and bought it off bandcamp for $10



Now imagine if even 10% of the people that watched the video bought it off bandcamp and let's say he gets $5 off that $10 sale

5 x 160,000 = $800,000

That's ghetto gold as e40 said

 

[Black_Panther_JS]

Princes music wouldnt be popular today anyway

Most legends wouldn't become stars in today's music world