Prince Naseem Thoughts on Floyd MayWeather

[Champ_KW]

Prime pernell beats Floyd
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I heard amateur Floyd gave Pernell all he can handle in sparring

 

[Ralph Wiggum]

Most swagged out boxer of all time now rocking them walmart velcro joints

 

[WickedSkengman]

I think he's the most skilled fighter to ever live. As in, he has no flaws in his game. He does everything good or great. There aren't any holes in his game other than maybe in ring activity, but this is more in a advanced age, not in his prime.

Elite ring IQ, Elite Jab, elite footwork. Elite timing. Long reach for his height, elite range control, elite speed, elite evasiveness, elite reflexes. Can throw any punch. Elite defense. Elite recovery ability. Good punching power. Good chin. That pullback counter. That check hook off the ropes. Elite ring generalship. Elite quickness. Elite work ethic. Perfected, tweaked philly shell. Tweaked punching motion to maximize quickness (see below). Can cut off the ring. Can fight, big, and small. Elite stamina. Elite offense (prime) elite accuracy. Elite mental stamina. Can fight off the ropes. Elite athleticism. Elite adjustment making. Elite inside game. And he doesnt abuse his body, and is already the greatest boxer-businessman the game has ever seen.

And all that adds up to him fighting at 38 and being the best in the sport still, as well as one of the richest people ever involved in boxing.

We know he's not the greatest, greAtness has a lot to do with accomplishments and public perception. The only thing he's the greatest at is self promotion.

But is he the best ever as far as skillsets? Who's are you taking over him? Dudes really a complete fighter.

floyd is not the most skilled fighter of all time. he benefits greatly from boxing in an era where any bum off the street can put a towel over his shoulder, shout generic things like "hands up" and "be faster" and be called a trainer. you can count on one hand the number of legit trainers who actually learned from other great trainers and have a lineage. boxing technique is horrible compared to the 30s-70s. muhammad ali the rooe a dope and tyson fighting with his hands up pretty much killed boxing technique along with the atgs not passing their knowledge down. everybody thought it was great to stand straight up on the ropes like ali. everyone wanted to fight with their hands glued to their head like tyson but nobody actually learned the system off cus damato. they just started shouting hands up.

obviously the people with real boxing training stand out like a sore thumb in this era. floyd, toney, hopkins to name a few.

 

[patscorpio]

Prime pernell beats Floyd
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Mayweather was one of several amateurs, along with Zahir Raheem and Zab Judah, who went to Norfolk to train with Whitaker in 1994.
Mayweather wouldn't say much about how the sparring went.
"I've got respect for champions," he said. "It was good work for both of us. That's all I'll say."
Ronnie Shields, now one of the sport's best trainers, was an a.ssistant trainer under George Benton at the time working with Whitaker. He was there to see Whitaker and Mayweather spar. And while he said Whitaker had few problems with the 17-year-old prodigy, it was obvious that Mayweather was destined to be a superstar.
"Pernell handled him, like he handled all of those guys," Shields said. "He wasn't hitting them hard, just playing with them, going down low like he did and f!ghting with his hands at his side. They couldn't hit him. But remember, Pernell was the best in the world at the time. When Mayweather was in there, even though he was having trouble with Pernell, it was obvious how good the kid was.
"Pernell is a guy who doesn't give out a lot of compliments. He didn't want to say anything about another f!ghter, because he didn't like the idea of anyone upstaging him. But I remember him saying to me, 'Man, this kid is good right now.' He said to Floyd, 'You stay with this and you remain dedicated, ain't nobody going to touch you.' "

 

[mr. smoke weed]

floyd is not the most skilled fighter of all time. he benefits greatly from boxing in an era where any bum off the street can put a towel over his shoulder, shout generic things like "hands up" and "be faster" and be called a trainer. you can count on one hand the number of legit trainers who actually learned from other great trainers and have a lineage. boxing technique is horrible compared to the 30s-70s. muhammad ali the rooe a dope and tyson fighting with his hands up pretty much killed boxing technique along with the atgs not passing their knowledge down. everybody thought it was great to stand straight up on the ropes like ali. everyone wanted to fight with their hands glued to their head like tyson but nobody actually learned the system off cus damato. they just started shouting hands up.

obviously the people with real boxing training stand out like a sore thumb in this era. floyd, toney, hopkins to name a few.

This is pretty much on point. I will say the Tyson style of working your way inside and leaving your body open doesn't work for many fighters. Tyson had next level elite footwork though.

 

[Mike Otherz]

nas was my favoriter fighter for a long time with james toney. like 1994-1999.

 

[SCORCH]

This fakkit contradicted himself in under 30 seconds...he shyts on Floyd for being confident then in the next sentence lauds himself as the having the goat ring entrances....

Yeah, Naseem was chatting pure shyt in this clip. :chatshytlol:

 

[Liu Kang]

[...]obviously the people with real boxing training stand out like a sore thumb in this era. floyd, toney, hopkins to name a few.

Can you name a bit more ? I'm trying to build my boxing knowledge up. I feel like Amir Imam is a good technician from the looks of it but I don't know much tbf.

 

[Remote]

Prime pernell beats Floyd
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This is another example of the "styles make fights" maxim.

Because if we agree that Pernell beats Floyd, would that make people say that Pernell is the best ever?



Probably not.

So records are nice and all, and 49-0 is one HELL of an accomplishment.
But styles make fights.

No doubt FMM is the best of his era.
He aint the best of all time tho.

 

[KG1]

nikka looks like 7/11 store manager eating too many nahos gftoh

 

[Drones]

Damn, bro's wife seems lowkey grossed out by him...

 

[Dominicansbelit]

floyd is not the most skilled fighter of all time. he benefits greatly from boxing in an era where any bum off the street can put a towel over his shoulder, shout generic things like "hands up" and "be faster" and be called a trainer. you can count on one hand the number of legit trainers who actually learned from other great trainers and have a lineage. boxing technique is horrible compared to the 30s-70s. muhammad ali the rooe a dope and tyson fighting with his hands up pretty much killed boxing technique along with the atgs not passing their knowledge down. everybody thought it was great to stand straight up on the ropes like ali. everyone wanted to fight with their hands glued to their head like tyson but nobody actually learned the system off cus damato. they just started shouting hands up.

obviously the people with real boxing training stand out like a sore thumb in this era. floyd, toney, hopkins to name a few.

Nah Floyd beat hall of famers who would be competitve in any era.. Pacman (hall of famer), Marquez (hall of famer), Cotto (hofer), de la hoya (hofer), Mosley (hofmer) .. Floyd is definitely the greatest 130 pounder of all time.. don't disrespect da gawd like that bruh