Pressure the gov. of the Dominican Republic to stop its planned "cleaning" of 250k black Dominicans

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Trujillo with President Magloire of Haiti. Hector and Ramfis Trujillo in attendance

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Ser negra y odio la gente negra, putas...:heh:

breh you wrote that you hate black people and black people are bytches :what:


This thread man....Pure venom and hatred being displayed. :mjpls:


Its embarrassing , but entertaining :russ:
 

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So how is the DR government determining who gets deported and who gets to stay?

Are the DR police placing each DR citizen on trial until he/she admits she's of Haitian descent? Of course the government is taking black DR citizens off the street.

You can't be this dense.

The determining factor is whether or not you're legal in the country and have documentation to prove it.

Honestly, even with this law, many more Haitians will remain in DR than will be deported. And many more Haitians will now have a path to citizenship.

Vice President Biden was in DR recently and commended the new immigration process.

The international community (countries, not media) are not crying out about the immigration process.

The immigrants in the DR that are going through the process are doing so calmly and respectfully.

It's all good over in DR right now.

OK, you and the people who complained about Haitians invading DR in the 1800s are either misguided or outright lying.

The truth is this..in 1822, Nunez de Caceres declared the independence of the eastern side of the island as “Spanish Haiti.” Concerned that Nunez de Caceres planned to re-establish slavery, other leaders on the eastern side asked Boyer (the leader of Haiti at the time) to help establish order. Under Boyer’s leadership and with popular support, de Caceres and his partisans were forced to surrender. Boyer reunited the entire island as dictated by the country’s Constitution which called for the preservation of one indivisible island without slavery. Boyer never colonized nor conquered nor invaded the eastern side of the island because that portion of the island was already a part of Haiti. Revisionist historians (and people like you) repeatedly accuse Boyer and Haiti of having invaded the eastern part of the island which supposedly belonged to Spain. However, if that was the case, Boyer virtually would have been declaring war on Spain. It would have made ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE for Boyer to buy peace with France (out of fear of war with France) just to declare war with Spain. Haiti never attacked any Spanish owned territory.

Boyer’s government became unpopular when it levied taxes on Haitians to pay France, but it took an earthquake in 1842 (when Haiti was still under an American embargo) to end his administration. The resulting disarray empowered rebel groups throughout the island. An opposition group sprung in the south and a separatist movement (led by Juan Pablo Duarte) gained momentum in the east and eventually led to the eastern side of the island declaring its independence in February 1844.

Here's where the US got its hands dirty...POTUS Tyler responded by saying that the United States, France, and Spain must quickly recognize this new nation (DR) in order to limit the influence of Black people in the Caribbean. The United States quickly recognized Dominican independence but waited 20 years later to recognize that of Haiti. With the eastern separatists backed by these countries, Haiti couldn't maintain the island as one nation.

Hell, even years after the eastern side became the DR, there was no defined border between the two countries until 1929 (under US occupation). The US occupation force was selected from the US south. The argument was that southern whites knew best how to control Negros. The border was drawn in a way that favored the lighter skinned Dominicans. Haiti was forced to overlook the 1795 Treaty of Basel that gave the entire island to France and return instead to the earlier 1697 Treaty of Ryswick which gave 2/3 of the island to Spain and 1/3 to France. That treaty predated and ignored the outcome of the Haitian Revolution.

THIS is what really happened during the 1820s. Haiti NEVER invaded the DR so dead that myth.

All these facts demonstrate was that various superpowers had an interest in limiting Hispaniola's black influence and created the DR in order to keep Haiti under their control. DR was established by racism.

The DR is a country that sprung from Haiti. Today, Haitians and Dominicans who can trace their family’s history to the earliest days of the DR will find that they have much in common. Indeed, the very founders of the Dominican Republic (like Duarte and Santana) were once Haitian citizens.


Be from a country created to marginalize blacks and claim that the country isn't racist, brehs...:heh:

Link some sources please. I've read contrary information.

I know Wiki ain't the end all be all but there are discrepancies.


Your deflection isn't going to work here. I'm talking about the DR. Stop bringing up the US. FYI, the US deported thousands of ILLEGAL Haitian immigrants...the US didn't establish a law that retroactively deported Haitian-American citizens based on their Haitian ancestry. That's a completely different situation from what's occurring in the DR. Talk about comparing apples and oranges.

All I did was propose some alternative, less restrictive measures that could help the DR achieve its goal of "protecting its identity." Whether or not they would work for the DR is another question. But if those measures work for other countries (including the US), then I don't see why they wouldn't work for the DR (if the DR was genuinely concerned about protecting DR identity).

You'd be more effective in conveying your points if you left our the name-calling and raging estrogren that seeps through your posts.

Your proposal was Amnesty. That hasn't worked or even happened in the US. As a matter of fact, we don't even have a path to citizenship in the US like there is in the DR right now.

If anything the DR is ahead of the curb.

How are Dominican citizens of Haitian/African disapora descent supposed to have the adequate documentation to prove their citizenship when the DR government for decades SYSTEMATICALLY DENIED those very citizens from having birth certificates? You and other Dominican apologists have yet to answer this one question.

Again, stop deflecting. The subject of this thread is DR's racist law. Whether or not Haitians should remain in Haiti is irrelevant to the subject. The fact remains that Haitians migrate to DR for various purposes....just like Dominicans migrate to Puerto Rico and the US.

The fact that those documents were being denied to many of the Haitians is why this immigration process is so good. It puts everything out in the open now.

But to answer your question, people born to Haitian parents are Haitians according to Haiti. They can get documentation from their embassy.

As a matter of fact, if has been reported that the DR and the Haitian embassy even had a working agreement to make the process even more lenient and easy for them.

Why would Haiti provide birth certificates for people who weren't born within its borders?

You can't be serious?

According to their Constitution they're their citizens.
 

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breh you wrote that you hate black people and black people are bytches :what:





Its embarrassing , but entertaining :russ:

:what::francis:

No I didn't. I wrote: "be black and hate on black people, whores..."
 

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286,466 immigrants were registered over the last 18 months in DR

most of them were Haitian of course.

Breakdown:
  • 102,940 registered with birth certificates
  • 69,997 with ID cards
  • 95,164 with passports
  • 20,345 without documents

The street corners, which are usually filled with immigrants selling various products were almost completely deserted

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When interviewed, some of the few there said their compatriots didn't come to work because the didn't submit their documents :wow:


I feel bad for them boys. A lot of decent hard working people gotta make adjustments. That immigrant life is no joke in any country.
 

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help:wtf: yall been luring haitians to dr with pipe dreams to work in the sugar cane plantations,deduc social security from they paycheck and dont even give them pension :camby:


After watching this, its no question D.R. are a bunch of con artist. One man said sugar cane workers get social security taken out, but they don't receive pensions. That is fukked up.

fukk D.R.
 

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Deadline passes with no sign of mass deportations in Dominican Republic

SANTO DOMINGO — ...

...Dominican officials said they would not begin rapid or mass expulsions of undocumented migrants, as some had feared. Instead, they said, they will begin to evaluate individual cases while respecting human rights.

“Until this moment, there has not been any action of migratory interdiction,” the immigration office said Thursday in a statement cited in the local press.

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Those who registered were entered into the government’s biometric database and now begin a full registration process that could take weeks or months; for the time being, they are exempt from deportation.


But there are roughly 250,000 others who did not come forward with documents and may be at risk of deportation. While authorities told people to carry their documents in case they were stopped by immigration officials, they stressed that they would not be making mass arrests.

Despite fears of military raids or roundups in Haitian neighborhoods, there did not appear to be such actions Thursday. Nor were there reports of protests or street violence.

The program would not amount to a “witch hunt,” Interior Minister José Ramón Fadul said, according to the Associated Press. “It will be a gradual process, as it should be, without any sudden surprises.”

U.S. and other international officials, who have opposed any mass deportation effort, were watching closely to see how the Dominican government enforces its new immigration rules.

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Haitian President Michel Martelly said his country “is ready to receive with dignity our sons, our brothers.”

DR and Haiti got this situation under control, yaall :myman:
 

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help:wtf: yall been luring haitians to dr with pipe dreams to work in the sugar cane plantations,deduc social security from they paycheck and dont even give them pension :camby:


Some of the people in the army uniform are black to though :dahell: it's evident by their features

Yo Dominicans gotta be the most confused self hating nation on earth :dead: ain't no way you can justify/flip this
 

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Is that supposed to impress anyone other than someone who has lived in the Bronx their whole life?

:dead:

:wow: I love how ya pretend to miss the point to save face.

Ima leave it alone starting here:pachaha:
 

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I'm Dominican and this is my .2 cent in this matter.

DR is already a poor country and we can barely support our own people and on top of that add a bunch of our Haitian brothers to the mix. The country itself is corrupt by default and the resources are split within the elite in the island. It is a sad situation and front the outside we look like we are the bad guys but is so not much we can do. With that being said, fukk both sides.
 

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I'm Dominican and this is my .2 cent in this matter.

DR is already a poor country and we can barely support our own people and on top of that add a bunch of our Haitian brothers to the mix. The country itself is corrupt by default and the resources are split within the elite in the island. It is a sad situation and front the outside we look like we are the bad guys but is so not much we can do. With that being said, fukk both sides.
idk if its your first post in this thread or if you were shytting on Haitians like other Dominicans in this thread, I do and im sure other Haitians would agree the problem was created and supported by the elite on both side on the island, both side of the island did despicable things to the other the thing is that we need to move on because at the end of the day we share the same island
 
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