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What are some examples besides "Star Wars: Rouge One" & "The Fast & Furious" Franchise?
Prequels (and interquels) generally suck
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What are some examples besides "Star Wars: Rouge One" & "The Fast & Furious" Franchise?
peter jackson
Nuke Dukem
Da Bears
They couldn't really do it about after BB, because that storyline only has one way to go... In the first episode they flashed forward alluding to showing us what happens...
Rapmastermind
Superstar
I agree to an extent but just because it's told in a flashback doesn't mean it wasn't a prequel. "The Godfather" was the end of the Don's life, obviously that wasn't the "Beginning" of the story we just came into that way. I think "Last Crusade" had prequel elements showing Indy as a teenager. "The Indiana Jones Chronicles" was clearly a prequel told in flashbacks as well. I agree with you that sometimes that backstory is left better untold. But what I noticed most is only Iconic Characters or stories get the Prequel treatment. "The Lord of the Rings" is the Sequel to "The Hobbit" from a story standpoint and on film. So that would make "The Hobbit" Trilogy prequels but the "Hobbit" books came out first. Again the key here is "Backstory". The thing with "Batman Begins" is that if Nolan never made another film, you could place the Burton film right after it because the ending scene is Batman holding a joker card. So yes "Reboots" are getting more well defined but when Nolan first did it one could say it was still a prequel based story since it was Batman's origin or "Backstory/Beginning".
Complications
Sometimes "prequel" describes followups where it is not always possible to apply a label defined solely in terms of intertextuality.[7] In the case of The Godfather Part II, the narrative combines elements of a prequel with those of a more generalized sequel by having two intercut narrative strands, one continuing from the first film (the mafia family story under the leadership of Michael Corleone), and one, completely separate, detailing events that precede it (the story of his father Vito Corleone in his youth). In this sense the film can be regarded as both a "prequel and a sequel" (i.e., both a prior and a continuing story), and is often referred to in this manner.[7]
In the original Planet of the Apes series, even though the latter three films depict events chronologically prior to those of the first two films, the narrative itself is continuous, as three characters from the first two films go back in time. The later installments (Escape from...,[8] Conquest of...,[9][10] and Battle for...[11]) are sometimes called "prequels" in a broad sense of the word, and they are also sequels defined both broadly (as later installments) and narrowly (as continuation of the previously established storyline).[1]
In recent times the term "prequel" has also been applied to origin-story reboots, such as Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Batman Begins, and Casino Royale.[12][13] The creators of both Batman Begins and Rise of the Planet of the Apes also stated their intent to dispense with the continuity of the previous films so they would exist as separate pieces of work, with Christopher Nolan—director of Batman Begins—explicitly stating he does not consider it a prequel.[13][14] Here, "prequel" denotes status as a "franchise-renewing original" that depicts events earlier in the (internally inconsistent) narrative cycle than those of a previous installment.[13] Most reviewers require that a prequel must lead up to the beginning of its original work,[3] which is inconsistent with works that dispense with the narrative of previous work and are not significantly within the same continuity.
The 2009 film Star Trek features characters from the 1960s TV series Star Trek, but earlier in their careers. However, the film is set in an alternate timeline caused by a Romulancaptain from the universe of the original series going back in time and interfering with history. Thus, the film has been described as simultaneously a prequel and a reboot.
It's a prequel because he shuffled the date not because he really wanted to tell backstory. Hell if you aren't paying attention you wouldn't even know it was a prequel.
Knicksman20
Superstar
Only 2 prequels I can think of offhand that I enjoyed. 1 was the Infernal Affairs prequel which showed how both grew up got to the academy (The Departed was a remake of the original). The other is Underworld: Rise of the Lycans off the strength of Michael Sheen's great acting.
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
Where does X-Men First Class fit in to this? 
Rapmastermind
Superstar
Where does X-Men First Class fit in to this?
Perfect example why "Reboots" mask themselves when they are really Prequels. "Star Trek 09" did this as well. People are using "Reboots" as a way to really tell a prequel story that starts a partcular property or character at the beginning of their journey. "X-Men: First Class" is the origin story of Professor X and Magento. Technically speaking you have to call this Prequel but it was marketed essually as a "Reboot" of the characters with new young actors showing how they started out as X-Men. As I posted, "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" did this as well. Someone asked me where "Jurassic World" fits in this. Well that's sequel basically posing as a "Reboot". In the Jurassic Park Timeline it takes place 20 years after the original. So It wouldn't qualify as a prequel.
I would like to see a Transformers prequel that takes place exclusively on Cybertron. With no human actors in there fukking it up. A Man of Steel prequel on Krypton telling the story of how Kryptonians basically destroyed their home planet, without Superman.
Rapmastermind
Superstar
There is already a Superman Prequel Television show in the works called "Krypton" being produced and written by David Goyer which focuses on Life before Kal El was born and his father being young. A "Transformers" non-human prequel would be dope. Certain stories in the "Ani-matrix" can be considered a Prequel to the entire "Matrix" Franchise. Like I said, I really want a "Yoda" prequel film that takes place 1,000 years before "Episode I", it doesn't have to tell his entire backstory just show him as young jedi, people would go wild. I was laughing at Ridley Scott swearing for years "Prothemous" techincally wasn't a prequel until everyone saw the film and it was clear as day, lol. Now the next film is called "Alien: Covenant" which is the 2nd film of the new Alien: Prequel Series. Again from a blockbuster/success standpoint Coppola got the fire burning in "Godather II" and Lucas threw gasoline in it with Indiana Jones and Star Wars exploring Origin Stories of legendary characters.
MenacingMonk
Tranquilo
Infernal Affairs 2 (prequel) was dope.
That entire trilogy is piff.
That entire trilogy is piff.