Pre - Law School advice

[PacMan Jones]

Hello,

ight my little sister going to UC Santa Barbra . She wants to go to Law School and is trying to decide a undergrad major.
She thinking about double majoring in Sociology and Black Studies.

Im in engineering and its hard to believe that Law School doesnt care about undergrad that much , as long as you succeed. To me those majors are more hobby type than career. Im worried that if she wont get in shell be stuck with a weak ass job or have to go back to school .

I admit im ignorant in Law School knowledge .

Is their someone that can help her out , and come with some different choices if needed.
Do it for the kids.

don't want to go to law school. know you want to do it. it fukking sucks. the people there are pretentious for the most part. it is a drain. i sacrificed grades to keep getting fukked up but i graduated in december and sit for the bar in two weeks. i had connections and knew who i wanted to work for, did it every summer and what i wanted to do since junior year of college however.

if you just want the job make sure she has connections or tries to start interning places now. she also has to find a fit professionally. at a small firm it may be more lax or varied but you wont make as much. at a larger firm shes going to be someones bytch and do bytch work and get run into the ground making good money, billing 2200 hours a year at the least. if she wants to go out on her own thats crazy but more power to her.

what she majors in doesnt matter. take classes where you write. the best writers do the best quicker. buy some old bar books off line the summer before she enrolls and go through her first year topics. studying for the bar now and that would help a shytload.

being minority helped me in admission. but realize that its all about connections. the value of the lower tiered law school is just purely on connections. she needs to go to school in the state she wants to work unless she is in a top tier school. she needs to intern where she wants to work. if its a top law school shell be good.

 

[No1]

If she is black and has the GPA and a 160 nothing else will matter. The best advice for her is to work hard and network.

Law is still a great path if youre committed from the start of UG to getting into a top school.

Not true. This market is nuts right now. She'll get into a top program but there is no job guarantee.

 

[Richard Wright]

Not true. This market is nuts right now. She'll get into a top program but there is no job guarantee.

I didnt make any guarantees

 

[LordTaskForce]

Not true. This market is nuts right now. She'll get into a top program but there is no job guarantee.

She should go into IT then right?

A lot of people talk about "the market" but in reality, if you want a job you can go get it. Depends on how creative and determined you are. Are you going to get your dream job right out of school? Maybe not, but you can jump through the hoops and get to where you want to be in 5-10 years. Also law degrees are marketable outside of practicing law if she decides she doesn't want to practice. There are really endless possibilities

 

[godkiller]

Hello,

ight my little sister going to UC Santa Barbra . She wants to go to Law School and is trying to decide a undergrad major.
She thinking about double majoring in Sociology and Black Studies.

Im in engineering and its hard to believe that Law School doesnt care about undergrad that much , as long as you succeed. To me those majors are more hobby type than career. Im worried that if she wont get in shell be stuck with a weak ass job or have to go back to school .

I admit im ignorant in Law School knowledge .

Is their someone that can help her out , and come with some different choices if needed.
Do it for the kids.

Law school hardly cares about major and if your sister isn't that smart, she won't get high enough grades in legitimate subjects to get into a good law school. I advise her to major in Sociology and end up at a T14. The "prelaw" route doesn't exist and doesn't matter. All your sister has to worry about is getting a good GPA (>3.5), extracurriculars and doing well on the LSAT (>160).

 

[No1]

She should go into IT then right?

A lot of people talk about "the market" but in reality, if you want a job you can go get it. Depends on how creative and determined you are. Are you going to get your dream job right out of school? Maybe not, but you can jump through the hoops and get to where you want to be in 5-10 years. Also law degrees are marketable outside of practicing law if she decides she doesn't want to practice. There are really endless possibilities

No one told his sister what she should or shouldn't do so you have no reason to be getting an attitude with me or anyone else who is trying to give him honest advice. First and foremost, only laymen say that a law degree is marketable outside of law. That's like those people from the 70s who say that college kids today are just whining because back then they could major in art and get a consulting position. The position people get outside of law are usually consulting positions and things of that nature and usually those people have worked in the field prior to getting the JD. More importantly, those opportunities to lateral are usually after you have worked for years at a name brand institution (Government, firm, big corp, etc). Attorneys seldom stay at the same place for the entirety of their career so the exit options available to you from your first job matter.

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Everyone wants to believe that they're unique, and that is fine. But there is a reason why the vast majority of law school students will tell you not to go to law school and that applications are down 40%. You just said 5 to 10 years when the average law student graduates over 100,000 dollars in debt on top of the average college student graduating nearly 30k in debt. So you're telling me that I'm the wrong for telling someone that it's wiser to consider all your option and if you truly want to become a lawyer before embarking on a field in which you will spend the first 5 to 10 years of your career salary earning what you could have right out of college except with 100k less on top of your head.... Argue using generalized pep talks breh....