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What argument is there to be had? :pachaha: They ARE HoFers

With the stats he's put up throughout his career you would think his teams were pretty good to elite but they aren't which makes (IMO) those numbers empty. He's a possession receiver in the mold of Keyshawn
What did Tim Brown do for the majority of his career before that 3 year stretch at the end with Gannon,Jerry Rice and Rison?

He got in the HOF
 

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What did Tim Brown do for the majority of his career before that 3 year stretch at the end with Gannon,Jerry Rice and Rison?

He got in the HOF
Rison never made a difference on the Raiders. Brown was balling way before Rice for there. They just never made it to a SB. Plus Gruden had a lot to do with those teams
 

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What argument is there to be had? :pachaha: They ARE HoFers

With the stats he's put up throughout his career you would think his teams were pretty good to elite but they aren't which makes (IMO) those numbers empty. He's a possession receiver in the mold of Keyshawn
:what: why would you think the team is good based on WR stats? no one with knowledge of the game makes that leap. stafford and megatron put up godly #'s while being a decent to trash team depending on the season (stafford being trash himself)
 
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Dan was a hoe yesterday.

Literally the worst show he's had since i first started listening.

He just wouldn't concede the point to Amin.

Amin was like so you're saying if it aint a championship he's a bum? :heh:
That was basically what Dan was saying too. Dan had no ground to stand on. As if team's go from nothing to contender over night.
 

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Dan le batard is so off base at times. No one views Brandon Marshall as a career loser :what: and any person who follows him knows he's a much better person than he was in Denver. I really wish gotz or ryan would stand up against some of dan's offbase opinions

They do from time to time, specially Mike. But it happens when they start talking about how the show works and Mike will go "like when Dan can't believe someone has a different opinion and keeps arguing about how you are wrong about that opinion" :pachaha:

They even had an opening a couple of years ago where the shipping container with frightened refugees went batshyt insane after Dan told them that he preferred being right over Miami winning or some shyt like that :dead:

What they try to do is so difficult because it's a fine line between being a spoof of sports radio/being funny and just becoming a whiny, obnoxious show.

Dan was a hoe yesterday.

Literally the worst show he's had since i first started listening.

He just wouldn't concede the point to Amin.

Amin was like so you're saying if it aint a championship he's a bum? :heh:

What's funny is that that's the kind of argument Dan loves to have with Stugotz to show how dumb the average sports fan can be. LeBatard will spend an entire segment badgering Stu about how stupid is having such a high standard - based on results, which he believes depend mostly on luck - for incredibly good players :heh:
 

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If you take Mark Jackson last season with the Warriors and isolate by itself then yeah you can say he did a good job.

But, if you look at the Warriors became after he left and the changes Kerr made so that could be so then Mark Jackson looks like he has no idea what he was doing.

Thats the point and I dont know how anyone can argue against that.

The point about Brandon Marshall is stupid tho. No one thinks that Brandon Marshall is a bad player because he never made the Offs
 

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If you take Mark Jackson last season with the Warriors and isolate by itself then yeah you can say he did a good job.

But, if you look at the Warriors became after he left and the changes Kerr made so that could be so then Mark Jackson looks like he has no idea what he was doing.

Thats the point and I dont know how anyone can argue against that.

The point about Brandon Marshall is stupid tho. No one thinks that Brandon Marshall is a bad player because he never made the Offs
Problem with that line of thinking is that it ignore natural progression of young players. Warriors were still a crazy young team so who is to say they couldn't have just improved with Jackson as well. Not to mention that it's not like Kerr came in wanting to make Draymond an integral part of the team. The owner asked Kerr to give Draymond more minutes and then David Lee went down. The team looked so good with Draymond playing that he couldn't go back. Who's to say Mark Jackson couldn't have stumbled into the same thing. People forget that Warriors were giving the Spurs trouble until Steph hurt himself midway through that series. It's not like the team was having no success under Jackson. So to say he was horrible is just completely off base. To say Kerr is better is one thing but to say Jackson was horrible is senseless.
 

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Problem with that line of thinking is that it ignore natural progression of young players. Warriors were still a crazy young team so who is to say they couldn't have just improved with Jackson as well. Not to mention that it's not like Kerr came in wanting to make Draymond an integral part of the team. The owner asked Kerr to give Draymond more minutes and then David Lee went down. The team looked so good with Draymond playing that he couldn't go back. Who's to say Mark Jackson couldn't have stumbled into the same thing. People forget that Warriors were giving the Spurs trouble until Steph hurt himself midway through that series. It's not like the team was having no success under Jackson. So to say he was horrible is just completely off base. To say Kerr is better is one thing but to say Jackson was horrible is senseless.
Listen man, you are talking to a person that thinks professional coaches are interchangeable ( and no I didnt steal that from lebartard I have been getting negged for that opinion since sohh days)

So A lot of this does lend itself to luck (Draymond Green & the players getting better) but there are some emperical things that Kerr did that was different from Jackson

This team passes the ball more, runs in transition more, runs Curry off of screens more.

The lineup last year that was responsible for the #1 Offense and #1 Defense did not play a single Minute under Jackson :mindblown:

Curry plays defense under Kerr he didnt play a lick of D prior to that.
 

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I k ow it's there thing but sometimes I think Stu is about go in, drop the mic and walk off the set
 
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