Post Mike Brown: Hip Hop doesn't feel right to me anymore

[The Dust King]

It's cool to attack my online image.. But it's really neither here nor there

If you read between the lines I'm not attacking hip hop fam.. I'm attacking the owners that enable it.

Hip hop didn't monetize itself and create a system that generates billions at the expense of black destruction. You feel me?

nah im not attacking your image online. im attacking the persona you choose to represent.

there was many a day where we spent posting about a days ills or what was wrong in hip-hop and you continued to uphold those negative stereotypes and not build with fellow posters

hip-hop dont feel right to you because you dont know who you are. you dont go from trolling discussions to philosophies on zion and what you percieve to be invincible power structures.

the point is your late and its ok but you are not going to blame hip-hop.

hip-hop feels fine, yes theres less real and more bullshyt but how was that not expected?

while you were busy defending mobb deep ruining they career while singing to g-unit others were analyzing the vox technologies that prodigy was speaking on.

hip-hop is just spoken word. there are plenty of negatives uses of spoken word outside of hip-hop, they are using the vessel we created to transport negativity.

so what are you going to do about it? armchair activism aint doin shyt

either create some songs, ask for help discovering true hip-hop and teach the youth or no matter what type of questions you pose with no action you will remain the grown man whos a g-unit d!ckrider.

 

[Pop123]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2G2T5Xxot8

 

[NormanConnors]

CAC reporting in

I find it ironic how most of the hippity hoppity nikkas glorify violence and promote criminal behaviour through their music, but as soon as someone shoots back, they get shook and cry fake tears about "how our children are growing up in a violent enviroment". These are coming from the same damn people who shoot up clubs every weekend.

Get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt. You did this for yourselves, and your enviroment is just reacting to it.

If hip-hop didn't spread the image of the "urban youth" (which we all know means "dangerous and violent black thug" in their minds), do you think the police would shoot these people on sight?

Of course not.

As much as you want to fight it, you know it's true. Hip-Hop hurts the black communities. And this is the culture you are fighting so much for.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I disagree

 

[10:31]

nah im not attacking your image online. im attacking the persona you choose to represent.

there was many a day where we spent posting about a days ills or what was wrong in hip-hop and you continued to uphold those negative stereotypes and not build with fellow posters

hip-hop dont feel right to you because you dont know who you are. you dont go from trolling discussions to philosophies on zion and what you percieve to be invincible power structures.

the point is your late and its ok but you are not going to blame hip-hop.

hip-hop feels fine, yes theres less real and more bullshyt but how was that not expected?

while you were busy defending mobb deep ruining they career while singing to g-unit others were analyzing the vox technologies that prodigy was speaking on.

hip-hop is just spoken word. there are plenty of negatives uses of spoken word outside of hip-hop, they are using the vessel we created to transport negativity.

so what are you going to do about it? armchair activism aint doin shyt

either create some songs, ask for help discovering true hip-hop and teach the youth or no matter what type of questions you pose with no action you will remain the grown man whos a g-unit d!ckrider.

I assure you your focus on what I listened to is blocking you from giving an unbiased answer to my question.

Let me restart our exchange with respect, I respect where you're coming from and I think it would be foolish to focus on my like or disdain for specific artists when I'm more concerned about the owners of the genre and the culture*


Owners of the genre and the culture that have built a system that employs and pays well.. Pays extremely well for the destruction of the African image.

 

[Higher Tech]

Would love for the CACs who post here to chime in (interesting to see how you guys feel)



In the wake of what happened to Mike Brown (Eric Garner) and still digesting the aftermath of Trayvon Martin the allure of hip hop as beginning to disinterest me.

I'm 31 and for the first time in my adult life I'm completely conscious/aware of the impact the images in the art have on the world. The youth movement that used to promote partying and strategic rebellion has devolved into a brainless animalistic genre that perpetuaes sterotypes.

Over and over and over

Is anyone else feeling a little jaded post Mike Brown?


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Real talk, hip hop just aint for me anymore. These dudes are purely about money, they say "They dont care about us," but these rappers aint one of us anymore. Most of em are fake thugs and undercover homosexuals talkin about how "real" they are.
I seriously live only off of the old school shyt I grew up with.

 

[10:31]

I don't blame Hip Hop for violence or for anything post Mike Brown, nor am I really jaded as far as the music is concerned. I have a deep love for Hip Hop and really see it as a reflection, not a spark, with a lot of this negativity. At the same time while I respect it can bring a social change and social awareness, expecting this from everyone in Hip Hop at every instance isn't fair. On top of it being not fair, Hip Hop would be boring if everything was conscious or preachy Hip Hop. I love mindless shyt as much as everyone else when I am drunk and out. The problem is even when guys try to do something cool you have people complain, case in point Game recruiting all his Hip Hop buddies to put out a song that would help pay for the guys funeral and spread awareness better than just out right paying for it.

Now where I might be jaded is with the police because of where I am from. Police using excessive force, intimidation, black and latinos getting shot / arrested / "evidence" planted on them....that is just as much part of LA as the Lakers at this point. When the cops beat the shyt out of Rodney King out here Hip Hop didn't change in LA and I don't think you were jaded with Hip Hop then. Hip Hop wasn't the reason Rodney King got his ass beat either. That was good ol fashion racism.

People who want mainstream Hip Hop to have uplifting, powerful music are going to die holding their breath. It's like asking the news to only report on good things. That's not how it works. At least until everyone who is TRULY and REALLY upset with Hip Hop as it is starts supporting underground artists and ones who really speak on things they want to hear. I understand that music can influence people but do you blame the music or the parents? All of us here were raised on Hip Hop and many of the people I talk to are good, stand up, community chancing type peoples.

But what's your take on the gatekeepers.. The CEOs and A&Rs who played the most important role in what's showcased..

From there it's what's showcased and now it impacts the masses..


How it programs and conditions a human mind which in the grand scheme things keeps thousands of irrational ideas and stereotypes alive..

What's your view on that fam?

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

CAC reporting in

I find it ironic how most of the hippity hoppity nikkas glorify violence and promote criminal behaviour through their music, but as soon as someone shoots back, they get shook and cry fake tears about "how our children are growing up in a violent enviroment". These are coming from the same damn people who shoot up clubs every weekend.

Get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt. You did this for yourselves, and your enviroment is just reacting to it.

If hip-hop didn't spread the image of the "urban youth" (which we all know means "dangerous and violent black thug" in their minds), do you think the police would shoot these people on sight?

Of course not.

As much as you want to fight it, you know it's true. Hip-Hop hurts the black communities. And this is the culture you are fighting so much for.

#tnt we got one

 

[10:31]

Real talk, hip hop just aint for me anymore. These dudes are purely about money, they say "They dont care about us," but these rappers aint one of us anymore. Most of em are fake thugs and undercover homosexuals talkin about how "real" they are.
I seriously live only off of the old school shyt I grew up with.

Peace..

Once again I state my focus isn't really the artists and how hypocritical (human) they are..

But the system that enables them. A system that has made the destruction of black lives lucrative and marketable to the world?

 

[The Dust King]

CAC reporting in

I find it ironic how most of the hippity hoppity nikkas glorify violence and promote criminal behaviour through their music, but as soon as someone shoots back, they get shook and cry fake tears about "how our children are growing up in a violent enviroment". These are coming from the same damn people who shoot up clubs every weekend.

Get the fukk outta here with that bullshyt. You did this for yourselves, and your enviroment is just reacting to it.

If hip-hop didn't spread the image of the "urban youth" (which we all know means "dangerous and violent black thug" in their minds), do you think the police would shoot these people on sight?

Of course not.

As much as you want to fight it, you know it's true. Hip-Hop hurts the black communities. And this is the culture you are fighting so much for.

with blacks representing only 13% of the population then who is purchasing all this music, airtime, advertising and product placement?

while you dwindle on that i will correct everything else you spewed.

1) urban youth means urban youth. no race or gender is declared in this statement, anyone who feels in the blanks with anything negative is conditioned to racism.

2)hiphopppity nikkaz dont all wave guns and expect violence, that would be a generational shift in the mid 90s, true hiphphoppity nikkaz listen to rakim, KRS, de la soul, tribe, nas etc

3) generalization of blacks has lead to the comments you posted. interesting that you think people who "shoot clubs up every weekend" also "cry fake tears about violent upbringings"

this is envy and confusion. i have a friday to get back to though so i wish you luck in your future racist rants

 

[Frida Giezman]

I'm in my 30's now too and you just look at shyt differently when you get older, it happens. I wish it would've happened a lot sooner for me but oh well. Hip-hop can be destructive and counter-productive but it has it's good segments and qualities too. It's up to you to detox yourself of all the bullshyt and make sure your children or future children stay far away from that shyt too. Unfortunately, a lot of people in our generation grew up with out any guidance and we turned to hip-hop (among other things) and a lot of the things we turned to were detrimental to us. Just do better moving forward. Peace.

 

[King Sun]

Hip Hop Isn't hip hop no more. Its pop/edm music now

 

[Frida Giezman]

And for once let us in this culture have some accountability and stop blaming everyone else for how we're portrayed and viewed.

 

[10:31]

The system that was created is lucrative and on the surface looks rewarding.


You go into a lower class neighborhood and offer a human being who owns nothing and has no assets hundreds of thousands of dollars and in some instances millions


The chance to become famous but the catch is..


You've got to promote black destruction over and over.


And over



And over


I can't be mad at some artist who has no real understanding of the role this plays In the grand scheme of things. I'm looking at the enablers.

Black artists are at the bottom of the food chain. Why is it so lucrative to exploit and market black destruction?

 

[jilla82]

ive been feeling this way before the Mike Brown thing.

I dont want my brain to constantly be bombarded w/ negativity.
I know a lot of you dont think it effects you...but it does.

I listened to this and it really made me think about what media I let into my life