Positive Black British Music

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Some AAs dont know, but the UK Blacks copy everythings they see AAs do to a T. AAs set the bench mark for being "black"

All of the African American community problems came to the UK. From Black on black violence, gangs, to unemployment to drugs etc etc.

This thread is just about the music thats been made to opposed whats been going on. feel free to add on

disclaimer: 2nd vid is an absolute banger, RIP







 

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Some AAs dont know, but the UK Blacks copy everythings they see AAs do to a T. AAs set the bench mark for being "black"

In a way you're correct because black culture in America is very influential but i think blacks in the uk have always managed to branch off and create their own sub culture, one example being Grime.

Anyway Bashy black boys is proper old school, but glad to see it mentioned here because i believe it's up there when mentioning positive black uk music.









Swear there's a couple more but they've slipped my head.
 

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In a way you're correct because black culture in America is very influential but i think blacks in the uk have always managed to branch off and create their own sub culture, one example being Grime.
lol grime was just the uk version of rap, it was the exact same concept of US Rap.

So Caribbean(mainly Jamaican) drug gangs had nothing to do with violence problems in the Black communties in England?

Nice try but AA's have no hand with the problems your have

I grew up in the height of London gang culture.

People in london were claiming blood and crips, throwing up gang signs etc

The people who kidnapped Juelz waere 031 Bloods ffs

Even now the young ones are copying chicago slang, using numbers for gang names etc.

you have no idea what you're talking about, literally no idea. You definitely wasn't out here to be talking that bs
 
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lol grime was just the uk version of rap, it was the exact same concept of US Rap.

Grime isn't UK’s version of rap tho. What do you think UK Rap and UK Hip Hop is? Grime is the UK’s answer to Dance Music with emcees/entertainers on the beats. Also grime descends from UK Garage and jungle.


I grew up in the height of London gang culture.

People were claiming blood and crips, throwing up gang signs etc

Even now the young ones are copying chicago slang, using numbers for gang names etc.

you have no idea what you're talking about

I agree with this tho, most people in the uk are highly impressionable and emulate the usa (but it's more like a fad). I also remember the days bare ppl were claiming colours and postcodes. Bare youngers were recently growing dreads cause of Chief Keef too.
 

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Grime isn't UK’s version of rap tho. What do you think UK Rap and UK Hip Hop is? Grime is the UK’s answer to Dance Music with emcees/entertainers on the beats. Also grime descends from UK Garage and jungle.


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But you would call a grime artist a rapper though

Yeah I kno I'm right about the other thing, I lived it. Might have to give you this one coz you right about uk garage and jungle influence but US rap was the foundation

the hyper masculine bs, violent confrontation lyrics etc
 

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lol grime was just the uk version of rap, it was the exact same concept of US Rap.



I grew up in the height of London gang culture.

People in london were claiming blood and crips, throwing up gang signs etc

The people who kidnapped Juelz waere 031 Bloods ffs

Even now the young ones are copying chicago slang, using numbers for gang names etc.

you have no idea what you're talking about, literally no idea. You definitely wasn't out here to be talking that bs

I don't even know why i'm entertaining such nonsense, but i'm bored.

So according to your logic, gang culture amongst Blacks in England started with the bloods and Crips, and Black American crime culture, right?

All these Afro-American problems your have now didn't exist before.

So what I saw in places like Harlesden, Stoke-Newington, Hackney, Brixton in the 90's(which had nothing to do with AA's) was just a figment of my imagination.

And what about places like Wolverhampton, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham

AA's aren't responsible for any of your problems, that's on your idiots.
 

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I don't even know why i'm entertaining such nonsense, but i'm bored.

So according to your logic, gang culture amongst Blacks in England started with the bloods and Crips, and Black American crime culture, right?

All these Afro-American problems your have now didn't exist before.

So what I saw in places like Harlesden, Stoke-Newington, Hackney, Brixton in the 90's(which had nothing to do with AA's) was just a figment of my imagination.

And what about places like Wolverhampton, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham

AA's aren't responsible for any of your problems, that's on your idiots.

Sounds like you're out the loop to be honest. Gang culture in London in the 90s and 00s are two completely different things. 00s was ten times worse, gun crime went up by 98% in 10yrs

I didn't say thats how it started, but thats how it was brought to unprecedented levels. I speak on what I know
 

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But you would call a grime artist a rapper though

Yeah I kno I'm right about the other thing, I lived it. Might have to give you this one coz you right about uk garage and jungle influence but US rap was the foundation

the hyper masculine bs, violent confrontation lyrics etc

Grime doesnt come from hip hop/rap my g you're wrong about most of the shyt you saying in here.

I remember the postcode wars, that blood/crip phase and all thatt shyt but don't play like it all starts there
 

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Sounds like you're out the loop to be honest. Gang culture in London in the 90s and 00s are two completely different things. 00s was ten times worse, gun crime went up by 98% in 10yrs

I didn't say thats how it started, but thats how it was brought to unprecedented levels. I speak on what I know

and that was because of american influence?

Lol ok
 

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and that was because of american influence?

Lol ok

I retracted the statement about grime. But grime does indeed merge elements of US Rap with uk garage and jamaican tings

As for me saying it started with US culture... from my last post

I didn't say thats how it started, but thats how it was brought to unprecedented levels

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It really did play a huge factor in taking gang culture to the next level. Most uk gangs were emulating US gangs like GipSET etc

Not sure whats hard to understand about this, we all know how hugely US influences the UK. You even see it on the coli, UK posters competing with the US to say UK is bad etc etc
 
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I retracted the statement about grime. But grime does indeed merge elements of US Rap with uk garage and jamaican tings

As for me saying it started with US culture... from my last post



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It really did play a huge factor in taking gang culture to the next level. Most uk gangs were emulating US gangs like GipSET etc

Not sure whats hard to understand about this, we all know how hugely US influences the UK. You even see it on the coli, UK posters competing with the US to say UK is bad etc etc

Maybe it seemed unprecedented because u were just becoming aware of the roads or something. Judging by your screenname u were around 11 years old when dipset was popping so I can understand why u would think that way.

I don't where your from but breddas who really out here on crud don't do it because of US influence my g
 

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Maybe it seemed unprecedented because u were just becoming aware of the roads or something. Judging by your screenname u were around 11 years old when dipset was popping so I can understand why u would think that way.

I don't where your from but breddas who really out here on crud don't do it because of US influence my g

lol, my usernames a reference to the documentary not my age.

gun crime went up 98% in london, its not a matter of opinion, just fact. 00s was the height of gang crime for the capital

I'm from south london, and yes everything we see is copied and influenced. If it wasn't for the US influence London wouldn't have went through the what do you rep, what set are you, crip, bloods, postcodes throwing up gang signs shyt. That influence ruined a whole generation

From the way we dress, to the way we talk, to the music we listen to, to the way we treat other blacks has been adopted from mostly US culture. (Jamaican too)
 

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lol, my usernames a reference to the documentary not my age.

gun crime went up 98% in london, its not a matter of opinion, just fact. 00s was the height of gang crime for the capital

I'm from south london, and yes everything we see is copied and influenced. If it wasn't for the US influence London wouldn't have went through the what do you rep, what set are you, crip, bloods, postcodes throwing up gang signs shyt. That influence ruined a whole generation

From the way we dress, to the way we talk, to the music we listen to, to the way we treat other blacks has been adopted from mostly US culture. (Jamaican too)

The bolded is partly true I guess it depends on your background. I'd say Jamaicans were much more influential but I'm Jamaican myself. We use far more yard slang than US slang and it just sounds more natural. But you're talking about a phase that lasted about 2 years at the most(blood/crip thing). You're giving the US too much credit, channel u was far more damaging.

Again talk to those breddas who upped the crime rate in the 00's. Tell the mandem who got bun and the ones who caught the M charges it was all because of US gang culture and see what they tell you.
 
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