POLL: which cities produced the most Authentic Street/Hood music

which has the highest rate of authentic street music

  • NYC

    Votes: 30 18.9%
  • LA

    Votes: 26 16.4%
  • Chicago

    Votes: 38 23.9%
  • New Orleans

    Votes: 33 20.8%
  • Atl

    Votes: 10 6.3%
  • Oakland

    Votes: 20 12.6%
  • Memphis

    Votes: 20 12.6%
  • Philly

    Votes: 16 10.1%
  • H-town

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Miami

    Votes: 7 4.4%
  • some other city

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Detroit

    Votes: 8 5.0%

  • Total voters
    159
  • Poll closed .

Doomsday

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breh, those areas of sf he named were as real as any hood. very few cities, if any, are dangerous on a whole, even in oakland's criminal heyday you still had rockridge, montclair, golf links, and the hills which were basically six figure oases. no one is claiming SF as a whole was some murder capital, but you wasn't rollin thru HP in the early 90's thinking how soft nikkas must be.

Actually, I was...kinda.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just thought it was genuinely funny that someone would mention Cali at all, then the Bay as a bonus. California has the fakest rappers in history hands down, no other region is close. That turned into an environmental conversation so I said my peace there. No city in the bay has ever ever ever been dangerous except one. It just goes to show how great the bay is to live on a daily basis, that SF is considered the hood. Hilarious. Every city and every area is considered the hood in the bay. Double hilarious.
 

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Actually, I was...kinda.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just thought it was genuinely funny that someone would mention Cali at all, then the Bay as a bonus. California has the fakest rappers in history hands down, no other region is close. That turned into an environmental conversation so I said my peace there. No city in the bay has ever ever ever been dangerous except one. It just goes to show how great the bay is to live on a daily basis, that SF is considered the hood. Hilarious. Every city and every area is considered the hood in the bay. Double hilarious.
ok breh...i can easily say that about every city. i lived all over - philly, dc, ny, and chicago and was able to step foot in "hoods" without dying or having someone step to me wrong....does that mean those places aren't dangerous? residents aint just sitting on their porch hoping to pop some shyt off...
 

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ok breh...i can easily say that about every city. i lived all over - philly, dc, ny, and chicago and was able to step foot in "hoods" without dying or having someone step to me wrong....does that mean those places aren't dangerous? residents aint just sitting on their porch hoping to pop some shyt off...

Well yes, because there is a thing called numbers that helps us figure shyt out. You know, science and all. There is also a thing called demographics that help as well.

DC is majority black. Philly is almost majority (half) black. Chicago is segregated; southside is majority black. NY in it's heyday (hip hop) was segregated. These are all important factors which I'll get into in a second.

Who's the poorest ethnic group? Oh that's right, blacks. Where did the term "hood" come from? Black folk via segregation. So those cities you mentioned are all real hoods, because the demographic that the term derived from is actually present in these areas. Black culture is alive and well in these areas. Danger doesn't necessarily make something the hood, the media painted that picture. What makes something hood is the demographics first. Now street, yeah that's where the crime statistics factor in.

Obviously if we take the numbers literally as you said, really no city in America is dangerous. 100 people dying in a city of a million is minute when you take it literally. The numbers are based on averages and metrics.

The main difference (and the most important factor) is that the other places you mentioned are considerably blacker. Next is the environment (money) factor. The bay is the richest area arguably on EARTH, let alone the U.S. In contrast, Detroit and Baltimore are the poorest cities in the U.S. Clearly no comparison. Then when you mention the crime rates theres no comparison there either. Philly could probably equal the entire bay areas worst. So could Chicago; in fact, there are neighborhoods in Chicago that are worse than the worst city in the bay.

When you put all of this together the bay equals a giant suburb of the wealthiest bougiest do-gooder folk in America. Any talk of hood or street when speaking of the bay (or hell Cali in general) makes me want to laugh.
 

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He didn't??? The trap sound was made Mainstream by Jeezy who was screaming NOTHING but BMF. So how wasn't he :martin:
There's this little guy named TI that's dropped his debut in 2001 called "I'm Serious" and he followed it up with a regional classic in 03 call "TRAP MUSIC" , that album went on to be certified platinum. A lot of the popular songs were produced by this guy named DJ Toomp, Jeezy dropped his first popular mixtape in 04 while BMF had Bleu Davinvi rapping over wack sh-t. Lemme guess BMF were the first guys in Atlanta to sell drugs too huh?
 

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There's this little guy named TI that's dropped his debut in 2001 called "I'm Serious" and he followed it up with a regional classic in 03 call "TRAP MUSIC" , that album went on to be certified platinum. A lot of the popular songs were produced by this guy named DJ Toomp, Jeezy dropped his first popular mixtape in 04 while BMF had Bleu Davinvi rapping over wack sh-t. Lemme guess BMF were the first guys in Atlanta to sell drugs too huh?
Come on Man...we ALL know damn well that TRAP shyt and sound didn't hit until Jeezy hit the scene. I'm Serious was a dud and on Trap Muzik he was still trying to find his sound. That's why cats like Kanye, Jazzy Pha, David Banner etc...were all over it. And hell NOBODY believed Tip ass was a true D boy :martin: Jeezy was considered authentic because of his ties to BIG MEECH and BMF. Stop trying to rewrite history :camby:
 

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Well yes, because there is a thing called numbers that helps us figure shyt out. You know, science and all. There is also a thing called demographics that help as well.

DC is majority black. Philly is almost majority (half) black. Chicago is segregated; southside is majority black. NY in it's heyday (hip hop) was segregated. These are all important factors which I'll get into in a second.

Who's the poorest ethnic group? Oh that's right, blacks. Where did the term "hood" come from? Black folk via segregation. So those cities you mentioned are all real hoods, because the demographic that the term derived from is actually present in these areas. Black culture is alive and well in these areas. Danger doesn't necessarily make something the hood, the media painted that picture. What makes something hood is the demographics first. Now street, yeah that's where the crime statistics factor in.

Obviously if we take the numbers literally as you said, really no city in America is dangerous. 100 people dying in a city of a million is minute when you take it literally. The numbers are based on averages and metrics.

The main difference (and the most important factor) is that the other places you mentioned are considerably blacker. Next is the environment (money) factor. The bay is the richest area arguably on EARTH, let alone the U.S. In contrast, Detroit and Baltimore are the poorest cities in the U.S. Clearly no comparison. Then when you mention the crime rates theres no comparison there either. Philly could probably equal the entire bay areas worst. So could Chicago; in fact, there are neighborhoods in Chicago that are worse than the worst city in the bay.

When you put all of this together the bay equals a giant suburb of the wealthiest bougiest do-gooder folk in America. Any talk of hood or street when speaking of the bay (or hell Cali in general) makes me want to laugh.
this does nothing to negate the concentration of that same stuff in the hoods in the bay...swear yall nikkas get silly as fukk on here. the hood in chicago is the hood in memphis, is the hood milwuakee, is the hood in sf...the same conditions exist...don't matter what citywide demographics are when there are still mass concentrations of violence and and underserved communities. but i'm done with this, one thing i don't do is participate in hood olympics.
 

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Come on Man...we ALL know damn well that TRAP shyt and sound didn't hit until Jeezy hit the scene. I'm Serious was a dud and on Trap Muzik he was still trying to find his sound. That's why cats like Kanye, Jazzy Pha, David Banner etc...were all over it. And hell NOBODY believed Tip ass was a true D boy :martin: Jeezy was considered authentic because of his ties to BIG MEECH and BMF. Stop trying to rewrite history :camby:
No, that's what you're attempting to do because y'all boys from Snitchigan were jealous of our music scene ever since they started calling us the new Motown. You're trying to interject your city into our success and you don't have an argument. People in Atlanta got behind TI because he was talking street sh1t from the "trap" pov. TI wasn't trying to find his sound, after "I'm Serious" flopped he started beating the block with his "In Da Streets" mixtape series and then he dropped "Trap Muzik" and shut sh1t down. The most popular street songs were produced by Toomp and that's not even debatable, he was ALL OVER his albums from 01-05.

The only thing BMF contributed to our scene was riding foreign and the only city that can say they influenced Trap Music is Memphis. If BMF was so influential over our sound, why couldn't they come up with anything but wack ass Bleu Davinici and then they tried to ride Big Oomps wave when all else failed. You know nothing about Atlanta's rap scene so stop acting like you do with your weak argument. Don't even attempt to come back with BMF running the city like dudes from Snitchigan always do with their fall back argument because that's not true either.
 
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this does nothing to negate the concentration of that same stuff in the hoods in the bay...swear yall nikkas get silly as fukk on here. the hood in chicago is the hood in memphis, is the hood milwuakee, is the hood in sf...the same conditions exist...don't matter what citywide demographics are when there are still mass concentrations of violence and and underserved communities.


What are you slow? We already covered how none of what you said is true. The whole "every hood is the same" deflection tactic won't save you here.

No every hood is not the same. No, everywhere is not the hood. That's the entire problem. Southside Chicago isn't white and rich. Memphis isn't white and rich. San Francisco IS white and rich. Numbers don't lie. The economy is booming and crime statistics are low in every category.

There is no mass concentration of violence anywhere in the bay. The ENTIRE BAY AREA combined is safer than most cities in the U.S. ONE RANDOM U.S city is worse than the whole bay area.
 
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Doesn't matter if they are two separate counties. The population of both are the same demographic of people. Saint Louis and East Saint Louis are two different cities period you don't pass a stop light and go from STL to East Saint Louis like Palo Alto to EPA.

EPA has never been dangerous even when the per capita numbers gave it attention. SF has never been dangerous and as I said, is a testament to how suburban the bay is in general that it would ever be considered anything.

I know what I know from an insiders perspective. If you never lived or are not affiliated with people that live in the worst areas of the aforementioned what can you tell me? nikkas couldn't walk the areas that they gas online but want to preach to me about how dangerous it is lol.

I grew up in East Oakland and know nikkas in every city I mentioned :comeon: Who's the insider you're talking about breh? Where in the Bay are they from? :troll:
 

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I grew up in East Oakland and know nikkas in every city I mentioned :comeon:

*Nods*

Who's the insider you're talking about breh? Where in the Bay are they from? :troll:

You can assume whatever you want to assume about me over the Internet *wink*.
My bay family gets just as annoyed as you guys do when we have these conversations lol. I don't give a fukk.

As I said, I speak what I know. The numbers back up my eyes.
 
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You can assume whatever you want to assume about me over the Internet *wink*.
My bay family gets just as annoyed as you guys do when we have these conversations lol. I don't give a fukk.

As I said, I speak what I know. The numbers back up my eyes.

You said you got family in the East before you edited the post and that you bounced around/lived here. Where in the East did you live and when? If you're not trolling I can respect your opinion though I obviously don't agree with it.
 
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