Poll: Uncharted 2 or Larry Raider 2013

Which game was better all things considered?(Gameplay, Graphics, Story, Set pieces, soundtrack.)


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how does that fact make the comparison less random?
What's so random about Tomb Raider vs Uncharted 2?? :ld:
They're both apart of the same genre :ld:

You acting like I'm comparing Tomb Raider and San Andreas or some shyt. :mjlol:

What, you rather me compare Tomb Raider and Uncharted 1??
 

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What's so random about Tomb Raider vs Uncharted 2?? :ld:
They're both apart of the same genre :ld:

You acting like I'm comparing Tomb Raider and San Andreas or some shyt. :mjlol:

What, you rather me compare Tomb Raider and Uncharted 1??

The games are like 4 years apart and there has been other games of that genre that have been released
between 2009 and 2013.
 

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The games are like 4 years apart and there has been other games of that genre that have been released
between 2009 and 2013.
What does the length of time between release have to do with anything?? Shouldn't TR be in a better position as it released later?? It ain't like UC2 is the newer game. Hell all this is saying is that UC2 is still the GOAT even compared to games released later that gen.

There isn't really any other games similar to UC/TR that came out this gen breh, :stopitslime:.

Unless you want to do a poll between TLOU and Tomb Raider :sas2:.
 

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What does the length of time between release have to do with anything?? Shouldn't TR be in a better position as it released later?? It ain't like UC2 is the newer game. Hell all this is saying is that UC2 is still the GOAT even compared to games released later that gen.

There isn't really any other games similar to UC/TR that came out this gen breh, :stopitslime:.

Unless you want to do a poll between TLOU and Tomb Raider :sas2:.

Why exactly would TR be in a better position? that question literally makes no sense. Why would games that released later in the gen be superior in quality to games released earlier? what? graphic quality?

3rd person action/adventure games last gen:

God of War series (2 titles)
Infamous series (2 titles)
Batman Arkham series (3 titles)
Assassin's Creed series (6 titles?)
Uncharted series (3 titles)
Tomb Raider (1 title)
Last of Us (1 title)
Metal Gear Rising
Dead Space (3 titles)
 

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Why exactly would TR be in a better position? that question literally makes no sense. Why would games that released later in the gen be superior in quality to games released earlier? what? graphic quality?

3rd person action/adventure games last gen:

God of War series (2 titles)
Infamous series (2 titles)
Batman Arkham series (3 titles)
Assassin's Creed series (6 titles?)
Uncharted series (3 titles)
Tomb Raider (1 title)
Last of Us (1 title)
Metal Gear Rising
You're :troll: me right??

Those games are better qualified to be compared to Tomb Raider?? Can you explain the rationale behind this??

Batman Arkham Series vs Uncharted??

Metal Gear Rising???? !?! ??

God of War??!? :mindblown:

I'm surprised you didn't put Ryse in that list, holy shyt :mjlol:.

As for why would a later released game be in a better position?? Umm lemme see it has the potential to learn from earlier games released??
 
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Can somebody please explain to me how tomb raider is even better than max payne 3? Let alone Goatcharted 2 lol.

But in all seriousness, Max payne 3 and gears of war are really the only games of this genre that come close to uncharted 2.
 

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Can somebody please explain to me how tomb raider is even better than max payne 3? Let alone Goatcharted 2 lol.

But in all seriousness, Max payne 3 and gears of war are really the only games of this genre that come close to uncharted 2.
Max Payne 3 was fukking dope :wow:

The bullet time, the enemy reactions to getting shot, the controls, the shootouts :banderas:

One of the best TPS games ever.

Gears of War 3 was absolute crack on disc. I'd go as far as to say I think I might have preferred Gears Of War 3 over Uncharted 3(MP wise). shyt felt so damn good to play. :wow:

I'd buy an XB1 and convert in a heartbeat if a Gears collection was announced.

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You're :troll: me right??

Those games are better qualified to be compared to Tomb Raider?? Can you explain the rationale behind this??

Batman Arkham Series vs Uncharted??

Metal Gear Rising???? !?! ??

God of War??!?

I'm surprised you didn't put Ryse in that list, holy shyt :mjlol:.

As for why would a later released game be in a better position?? Umm lemme see it has the potential to learn from earlier games released??

>Genre: 3rd person action/adventure (with free running elements)

What would a game like TR learn from UC2? a game that that gets praised for it compelling Indiana Jones-esqe story and cinematic set pieces, but lacked challenging gameplay. what could you possibly learn from that? how do you learn from a video games story mode? You learn from gameplay mechanics, not from a story mode. UC's gameplay is unoriginal. Guys in this industry know how to make a 3D action platformer without looking at past works from other studios.
 
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Can somebody please explain to me how tomb raider is even better than max payne 3? Let alone Goatcharted 2 lol.

But in all seriousness, Max payne 3 and gears of war are really the only games of this genre that come close to uncharted 2.

gears of war doesn't even have free running elements in it's games

it's hardly in the same category
 

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>Genre: 3rd person action/adventure
Pretty much most games are 3rd person action adventure. That's VERY vague. You'd have to be obtuse as hell to just leave it at that. Come on breh.

What would a game like TR learn from UC2? a game that that gets praised for it compelling Indiana Jones-esqe story and cinematic set pieces,
TR would learn a whole lot from it considering it bit off it's style and changed up to become pretty much JUST like a Indian Jones-esque story with cinematic set pieces when it's previous games kept that whole style to a minimum. People often say TR was like UC2 but I doubt it, Tomb Raider wasn't about all this rambo running and gunning enemies and big set pieces.

but lacked challenging gameplay. what could you possibly learn from that?
Have you played UC2 on crushing?? Challenging gameplay is the name of the game on that mode. Playing UC2 on normal isn't that hard but on crushing it's very hard. Hell, play UC2 co-op arena online on crushing mode and see if you can say it's not challenging.



how do you learn from a video games story mode? You learn from gameplay mechanics, not from a story mode. UC's gameplay is unoriginal. Guys in this industry know how to make a 3D action platformer without looking at past works from other studios.
This is the worst type of critique and honestly this critique when uttered screams of bias against Uncharted. UC's gameplay is unoriginal?? Really??

Uncharted's gameplay is an amalgamation of different gameplay systems. How many other TPS offers the level of verticality with fluid, precise controls as Uncharted 2?? You can take cover, roll, climb up different structures, hang and shoot, throw grenades with a press of a button and whatnot all at the same time. You don't even think about the controls.

These mechanics aren't "new" as is virtually 95% of games these days. Some of the best games last gen were "unoriginal" by your logic.

The way it is implemented is what matters. You're not really saying anything here :ld: You're just throwing shyt on the Uncharted wall, hoping to see what sticks.



That's like trying to downplay Battlefield 4 by saying "The gameplay is unoriginal" because there were FPS out before it.
 
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Pretty much most games are 3rd person action adventure. That's VERY vague. You'd have to be obtuse as hell to just leave it at that. Come on breh.


TR would learn a whole lot from it considering it bit off it's style and changed up to become pretty much JUST like a Indian Jones-esque story with cinematic set pieces when it's previous games kept that whole style to a minimum.


Have you played UC2 on crushing?? Challenging gameplay is the name of the game on that mode. Playing UC2 on normal isn't that hard but on crushing it's very hard. Hell, play UC2 co-op arena online on crushing mode and see if you can say it's not challenging.


This is the worst type of critique and honestly this critique is very weak. UC's gameplay is unoriginal?? Really??
Uncharted's gameplay is an amalgamation of different gameplay systems fitted in unison. How many other TPS allows the level of verticality and fluid, precise controls as Uncharted 2?? You can take cover, roll, climb up a side of a house, hang and shot, throw grenades with a press of a button and whatnot all at the same time. These mechanics aren't "new" as is virtually 95% of games these days. The way it is implemented is what matters. You're not really saying anything here :ld: You're just throwing shyt on the Uncharted wall, hoping to see what sticks.

"Pretty much most games are 3rd person action adventure"

not really I pretty much named them all in past post, unless you want to bring up obscure ones with no freerunning elements

"TR would learn a whole lot from it considering it bit off it's style and changed up to become pretty much JUST like a Indian Jones-esque story with cinematic set pieces when it's previous games kept that whole style to a minimum."

Indy is essentially a treasure hunter, and lara was not looking fro treasure in TR2013. I find it highly amusing that you say TR bit off UC as if the developers don't have past TR (same franchise) works at there disposal

>Tomb Raider: Underworld
>Tomb Raider: Legend

"Have you played UC2 on crushing?? Challenging gameplay is the name of the game on that mode. Playing UC2 on normal isn't that hard but on crushing it's very hard. Hell, play UC2 co-op arena online on crushing mode and see if you can say it's not challenging."

>dude your talking about the hardest difficulty, im talking about the gameplay in general
>all crushing does making it easier for you to die and harder for enemies to kill
>the gameplay mech is still easy as hell

"This is the worst type of critique and honestly this critique is very weak. UC's gameplay is unoriginal?? Really??
Uncharted's gameplay is an amalgamation of different gameplay systems fitted in unison. How many other TPS allows the level of verticality and fluid, precise controls as Uncharted 2?? You can take cover, roll, climb up a side of a house, hang and shot, throw grenades with a press of a button and whatnot all at the same time. These mechanics aren't "new" as is virtually 95% of games these days. The way it is implemented is what matters. You're not really saying anything here"


The basic mechanics of the gameplay in the games are not original, who cares how it was implemented? It was done well but in no way shape or form does that make it original are forreal? They were calling UC1 "Dude Raider" for a reason



 

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"Pretty much most games are 3rd person action adventure"

not really I pretty much named them all in past post, unless you want to bring up obscure ones with no freerunning elements


You really want to compare a game like say Metal Gear Rising to Uncharted 2?? Are you being serious??


"TR would learn a whole lot from it considering it bit off it's style and changed up to become pretty much JUST like a Indian Jones-esque story with cinematic set pieces when it's previous games kept that whole style to a minimum."

Indy is essentially a treasure hunter, and lara was not looking fro treasure in TR2013. I find it highly amusing that you say TR bit off UC as if the developers don't have past TR (same franchise) works at there disposal

>Tomb Raider: Underworld
>Tomb Raider: Legend


Let's be reality, TR Underworld and Legend wasn't lookign and playing like Uncharted 2 or 3. Anyone that says they are the same as the Uncharteds are lying. This is just a defense mechanism.


"Have you played UC2 on crushing?? Challenging gameplay is the name of the game on that mode. Playing UC2 on normal isn't that hard but on crushing it's very hard. Hell, play UC2 co-op arena online on crushing mode and see if you can say it's not challenging."

>dude your talking about the hardest difficulty, im talking about the gameplay in general
>all crushing does making it easier for you to die and harder for enemies to kill
>the gameplay mech is still easy as hell

So you're telling me Tomb Raider's gameplay mechanics are challenging and very sophisticated?? Is this what you're telling me? If Uncharteds gameplay is easy as hell, then Tomb Raider is baby steps.

"This is the worst type of critique and honestly this critique is very weak. UC's gameplay is unoriginal?? Really??
Uncharted's gameplay is an amalgamation of different gameplay systems fitted in unison. How many other TPS allows the level of verticality and fluid, precise controls as Uncharted 2?? You can take cover, roll, climb up a side of a house, hang and shot, throw grenades with a press of a button and whatnot all at the same time. These mechanics aren't "new" as is virtually 95% of games these days. The way it is implemented is what matters. You're not really saying anything here"


The basic mechanics of the gameplay in the games are not original, who cares how it was implemented? It was done well but in no way shape or form does that make it original are forreal? They were calling UC1 "Dude Raider" for a reason

Why wouldn't anyone care about how gameplay for a game is implemented?? Considering that you have to actually play the game for hours at a time, the way it's implemented matters. Pacing matters, enemy placement matters, set pieces matter, interactivity with the level matters. etc.. why would you not care?? You're not even making sense here. Lol, if Uncharted didn't have well implemented gameplay, it wouldn't be lauded as such a great game.

It's like ya'll want to say UC2 is only considered good because of everything else besides the gameplay. We all know that isn't true because if it was, Tomb Raider 2k13 would've had been the game regarded as the best game of it's type since some people like to say it had this so called better gameplay.
 

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"You really want to compare a game like say Metal Gear Rising to Uncharted 2?? Are you being serious??"

you singled out 1 game out of like the 20 titles I listed
>kek

"Let's be reality, TR Underworld and Legend wasn't lookign and playing like Uncharted 2 or 3. Anyone that says they are the same as the Uncharteds are lying. This is just a defense mechanism."

why are you comparing those games to other uncharted games? I brought those games up as proof that TR2013 could use past TR games to build off of



"So you're telling me Tomb Raider's gameplay mechanics are challenging and very sophisticated?? Is this what you're telling me? If Uncharteds gameplay is easy as hell, then Tomb Raider is baby steps."

I never at all said or implied TR2013 was challenging lmao, wth are you on?

"Why wouldn't anyone care about how gameplay for a game is implemented?? Considering that you have to actually play the game for hours at a time, the way it's implemented matters. Pacing matters, enemy placement matters, set pieces matter, interactivity with the level matters. etc.. why would you not care?? You're not even making sense here. Lol, if Uncharted didn't have well implemented gameplay, it wouldn't be lauded as such a great game.

It's like ya'll want to say UC2 is only considered good because of everything else besides the gameplay. We all know that isn't true because if it was, Tomb Raider 2k13 would've had been the game regarded as the best game of it's type since some people like to say it had this so called better gameplay."

I said "gameplay mechanics" dumbass, that has nothing to do with set pieces. I'm not even saying UC is bad or not great, THE BASE GAMEPLAY MECHANICS ARE UNORIGINAL!

unoriginal =/= bad or shytty

UC2's gameplay isn't it's greatest feature, it high praise is MOSTLY because of its story mode with quality side characters and modern day iconic new main character.

Even Sony themselves promotes the game as "playing a movie"



>"impossible escape scenes"
>"plot line filled with betrayal"

lmfao
 

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"You really want to compare a game like say Metal Gear Rising to Uncharted 2?? Are you being serious??"

you singled out 1 game out of like the 20 titles I listed
>kek

"Let's be reality, TR Underworld and Legend wasn't lookign and playing like Uncharted 2 or 3. Anyone that says they are the same as the Uncharteds are lying. This is just a defense mechanism."

why are you comparing those games to other uncharted games? I brought those games up as proof that TR2013 could use past TR games to build off of



"So you're telling me Tomb Raider's gameplay mechanics are challenging and very sophisticated?? Is this what you're telling me? If Uncharteds gameplay is easy as hell, then Tomb Raider is baby steps."

I never at all said or implied TR2013 was challenging lmao, wth are you on?

"Why wouldn't anyone care about how gameplay for a game is implemented?? Considering that you have to actually play the game for hours at a time, the way it's implemented matters. Pacing matters, enemy placement matters, set pieces matter, interactivity with the level matters. etc.. why would you not care?? You're not even making sense here. Lol, if Uncharted didn't have well implemented gameplay, it wouldn't be lauded as such a great game.

It's like ya'll want to say UC2 is only considered good because of everything else besides the gameplay. We all know that isn't true because if it was, Tomb Raider 2k13 would've had been the game regarded as the best game of it's type since some people like to say it had this so called better gameplay."

I said "gameplay mechanics" dumbass, that has nothing to do with set pieces. I'm not even saying UC is bad or not great, THE BASE GAMEPLAY MECHANICS ARE UNORIGINAL!

unoriginal =/= bad or shytty

UC2's gameplay isn't it's greatest feature, it high praise is MOSTLY because of its story mode with quality side characters and modern day iconic new main character.

Even Sony themselves promotes the game as "playing a movie"



>"impossible escape scenes"
>"plot line filled with betrayal"

lmfao

It's funny that the gameplay video you posted for Tomb Raider Underworld featured nary a human enemy. You couldn't find a Uncharted gameplay video that featured Drake shooting animals and shyt. The only time you actually come across non human type of enemies is towards the end of the first two games.

As for UC2's gameplay not being it's greatest feature, that's your opinion. What the game is advertised as is a complete package. You don't advertise a game with beautiful set pieces, engaging story telling and well written characters by talking about very technical things such as weapon spread or grenade arc throw distance.


Those things are left to the players when playing. The thing is, most casual players aren't talking about these things that much since they're just the ones mainly playing for the thrill. I know people who put hundreds of hours into the MP for UC2 and 3 and on here they BARELY talk about it. The presentation of Uncharted games are so good that they just simply overshadow talk of anything else. Only hardcore players on the community forums actually get into the nitty gritty. I'm not expecting most coli members to sit here and talk about that stuff. I can, because I was one of those forum users on UC2 forums and as such I can talk about the gameplay mechanics and systems for UC2 all day. I'm not some regular joe blow who merely likes UC2 and defends it, I played UC2 for damn near 300 hours.


The lack of evidence of people specifically praising it's gameplay alone doesn't mean it isn't looked at as a great game mechanically. the entire package and the way it's done is praised, gameplay included. How many other TPS action adventure games is mechanically fukking with Uncharted?? Like you said, most other games are rooted on the ground a la Gears. That makes Uncharted mechanically unique as it isn't just a typical run of the mill TPS.



It's like a really good sandwich. You don't fukking take out the piece of tomato and say "Well this piece of Tomato is okay, it definitely isn't an original ingredient.."
The tomato along with the cheese, patty, lettuce, caramelized onions, sauce, bun and condiments are what makes the "sandwich" so good.
 

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I must be one of the few people that actually thinks tomb raider was a chore to beat. I'm helping my kid play through uc3. Real talk uc3>tr. It's not even close. Uc3 fukk ed up trying to tell too much story and puzzles in chapters 1-11 but after that :blessed:shyt is >>>>uc2. What's really insane is they were working on tlou during this time as well.
 
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