Poll : Now that DNC lost the election will they swing further left or to the center?

Will the democrats move further left or to the center?

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Go more left than taxpayer money allocated for tranny prisoner sex changes :dead: if you think that’s left you are right wing :dead:

Absolutely fukking delusional
alright bet you did it! you cast your vote and now alllll of the many transexual prisoners across the country will go unchanged/unfunded and our tax dollars are going to something more worthy.
where's that money going, what did you gain instead?
 

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alright bet you did it! you cast your vote and now alllll of the many transexual prisoners across the country will go unchanged/unfunded and our tax dollars are going to something more worthy.
where's that money going, what did you gain instead?
Is that something you support? Use it for literally anything else
 

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Is that something you support? Use it for literally anything else
you're celebrating and I'm asking what specifically you're happy to see the money diverted from that for? is it going to anything in particular you champion??
if it's simply a win to not at all support gay/transexual sh*t then you can say that as well lol.
 

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If there’s a question on a ballot saying “should tax funds be allocated to use for prisoner sex changes” what do you think the support is? Does it even breach 10%? Why was that ever a statement uttered by someone a party is nominating for president? You’d get more people to support the sky not being blue
 

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If there’s a question on a ballot saying “should tax funds be allocated to use for prisoner sex changes” what do you think the support is? Does it even breach 10%? Why was that ever a statement uttered by someone a party is nominating for president? You’d get more people to support the sky not being blue
a candidate could run on should black people be reparated for being the victim of a violent, dehumanizing slave trade and would garner similar numbers, what point's that proving?
 

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Nobody knows.

However, if we are to go based on history, the lesson this election has taught them was that America is more conservative than they thought, so they'll double down on conservatism. They basically abandoned new deal policies that had helped them win elections when carter lost to Reagan. They decided they'd out-conserve the conservatives in America. They'd be more friendly to police, cut even more spending on social programs, repeal regulations on wall st, give more money to the military etc. and it worked. They've been running the same playbook since.

If they're going to do what they did before, and what Harris tried to do this time(genuinely seek support from republicans including dikk Cheney himself), then they'll basically be even more republican than ever before.

But if they look at things carefully they'll notice a few things:
1. Facts don't matter, vibes do. Being entertaining and interesting is more important to the American public than if you're intelligent and professional. You can be an absolute fukking moron and win because the electorate is full of people that are incredibly stupid. They are stupid enough to vote against their own interests, so being funny, likeable, and saying the shyt people like to hear is more important.

2. The mainstream media cares more about a horse race than presenting facts. It's a waste of time trying to get on their good side, because even if you play by their rules they'll give more screen time to your opponent.

3. Material conditions are important, and people need to know that you're addressing them. Saying how you're going to address the issues is irrelevant. The details don't matter as much as the fact that you acknowledge the issues. Having "concepts of a plan" is apparently enough.

Those three things are very important and they can win an election if the economy tanks under trump. The playbook usually goes like this:
1. Democrat fixes the economy a republican broke but it takes time for the changes to take effect -->The morons that make up the public are too impatient and vote for a republican--->The economy improves not because of anything the republican did, but because the policies that the democrat before him triggered are starting to take effect-->The republican wins re-election in spite of his dumbass policies and not because of them. The idiots consider him a good president while allowing him to take credit for the benefits of his predecessor's plans.

What Trump is planning on doing is interrupting this process. If he doesn't die in office, and he's successfully able to challenge and revoke the 22nd amendment through his partisans in the supreme court, what happens next is he gets a third term. This means that the policies HE triggers in his term will take effect while he's president. If he can be blamed for the economy going to shyt, then people will be furious at him and will want to get rid of him.

But then again, as I've said multiple times in this post, the american public is full of morons. So they may still literally blame anyone but the guy who said he'd make the economy great and failed to do so despite having all the tools and no meaningful opposition.
 

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It’s too early to tell.

All the balls are in the Republican hands.

You ask me the party might fracture in the short term and take a state by state approach. You might see NY Democrats and California Democrats and the national identity comes out of convention when they choose a national candidate.
 
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The party elites want to stay center, although its been completely ineffective.

They are married to the corporate dollar. Any meaningful economic progress will be stymied by them



They need to treat lgbtq issues as "under stood"


Let it be known that we will protect rights etc, but dont wear it on their sleeve everywhere they go. Make it implied.


But they need to pivot hard to the left economically.


> Policies like advocating massive expansion of worker rights, giving workers a seat the decision table for a the board.

> provide a federal jobs program that subsidizes skills training of all kinds, get people automatic foots in the door and allow them to pay a portion back via their salary over a period of time

> SLASH the individual income tax rate by half and raise the corporate tax to 30-40 percent.

> Expand workers benefits like free healthcare and expanding childcare credits per kid



They need policies that allow for easy messaging but gives understanding to the everyday man and woman that their conditions fundamentally change for the better
Progressive Populism.

Most Americans are too dumb to understand shyt on an intellectual level. GOP understands this which is why they appeal to dumbasses.

Dems have to edit their book from college level to Hooked on Phonics level and offer simple solutions.

People prefer Dems policies if they don't know where they came from (see ACA vs Obamacare). They gotta get some fire and stop playing in the center.
 

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They hit a sweet spot on most economic issues I think, but they need to moderate on immigration and transgenderism. They should oppose bullying and hatred of course, but not obsess over transgenders or defend child sex changes.
 
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They’ll deprioritize abortion and LGBT issues on the platform - that’s for sure. White women apparently don’t care about the former and the latter is a loud but, small, demo.

I suspect a more hardline view on immigration.

On economic issues, we shall see but they definitely will need to dumb down shyt and come up with a pithy slogan that appeals to men. Americans have the attention span of an infant.
 
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I swear none of you pay attention at all to politics. You all watch fox news or something. for the last 3 months straight, Kamala hasn't said SHYT about LGBT rights. She didn't run on a single progressive policy.

She was the right of center and GOT ANNIHILATED. THE ENTIRE PARTY WIPED OUT BECAUSE OF THE CENTER RIGHT CAMPAIGN she ran.

Show me one video in the last 3 months where she didn't pander to border security, immigration, tough on crime.

She alienated the base and ESPECIALLY YOUNG VOTERS. She lost 15 million voters because she pandered to Israelis and the funniest part is SHE LOST THE JEWISH VOTE lol.

You can't run on things the country decides over 50 years ago is only to be trusted by a certain party. Democrats will NEVER win being tough on crime and immigration.

Its impossible because these are inherently WHITE LEANING issues. They need a Bernie Sanders platform. Something they never tried. Not once. Never forget that Bernie doesn't even talk about LGBT stuff. That is a fringe thing done by non-politicians.

But you guys are gonna say they need to move to the center like their ENTIRE CAMPAIGN THIS YEAR WASNT MORE RIGHT WING THAN GEORGE BUSH.
 

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Don't listen to the neolib centrist retards.

Here is one really good policy. "The Right to Repair". Put in the law that gives farmers the right to repair their own tractors and stuff without having to bring in John Deere every time.

Implement that and you win swathes of the Midwest.

That's what populism is. Policies that benefit large segments of the working class. You do that, everyone eats and I promise you, no one cares about LGBT. well, except DeSantis stans but they only 2% :mjlol:
 
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