Poll: is Texas the south?

[Biscayne]

Where in Virginia are you talking about?

It can be open in some places but I can easily start feeling off some places I've felt it worse. I'll start with Buffalo, which is notoriously racist for blacks and is well known for it within New York State, and we can start looping northern cities before heading out West for places worse than VA...

The only place in VA that really has a reputation as racist is Virginia Beach, you have to get put into rural areas to see that shyt otherwise. And it's often the worst kind of racism, it's not the in your face violent type, it's the behind closed doors, in denial type...



That's because historically Upstate is white as fukk. Buff/Roc/Cuse/Alb are all at their blackest in modern times, because whites left en masse in the 70s to now. Most of the blacks stayed, and then blacks from elsewhere moved to these cities...

Historically though none of the Upstate cities were all that black, when there were more people in these cities, they were much less black...

Had no idea. I thought the major cities in upstate would've been blacker then. But it makes sense, white flight means black percentage increase. By default.

 

[murksiderock]

East Texas is the south...Va is the south...

Y’all nikkas in here buggin...u ain’t truly been thru VA if you don’t think it’s southern

Y’all only talking about 3 regions of VA( Hampton Roads, Richmond, and NoVA)...the state is bigger than that...but that’s all people know cuz they ain’t been thru the state

Where are you from specifically?

75% of Virginians, that's 3 out of every 4 Virginians, lives in Northern x Central x Tidewater, Virginia. The Virginia Crescent (those three regions) is where the overwhelming majority of culture emanates from Virginia, it's where the political, economic, financial, educational power emanates from...

You can feel free to talk about the 25% of the population that lives in the other 75% land area of the state, but the other 25% isn't typical of Virginia...and for the record, I consider Virginia to be a southern state, but there's a serious gradient in culture in VA. Southside, Southwest, and even the Eastern Shore vary greatly from The Crescent where the majority of the population is from---->they aren't the same degree of southern throughout The Commonwealth, and frankly, I'm surprised to even hear a Virginian suggest they are...

Maybe. But as I stated before Dallas nikkas and Memphis nikkas act similar af are even sound the same. It's a reason so many blacc ppl from Louisiana and Arkansas and Mississippi migrate to Dallas and don't feel out of place

Memphis and Dallas ain't that much alike. I'd be with you on Little Rock, though. Little Rock is a blend of Memphis and Dallas, is influenced by both. But Memphis, nah, it's pretty different from Dallas...

I'm in NC. Richmond on down felt like the South. Hell, even parts of NoVa still felt like The South to me. Literally I didn't feel like I was "Up North" until I'm in the DC city limits. NoVa may not be as Southern as areas South of it, but it feels "diffirent" from the true North.

DC has southern remnants as well, I think what tricks the mind is DC is the only city in the historic South that is as large as it is, looking the way it does. That doesn't exclude it from the South though....

Nobody who has lived in the undeniable north, be it Midwest or Northeast, would deny that DC feels different from the "true" north, too. DC was created from land donated by Maryland and Virginia, DC is a planned city that developed it's own culture through time, but at its core, DC culture is a Maryland/Virginia base culture. No matter what people think about DC now, it wasn't developed in a place thought of as northern at the time it was created, and maintains many, many examples of persona found in both MD and VA, two states historically southern...

It's always funny to me when people don't question Maryland's "northern-ness", because VA and MD were largely born of the same spirit, and that persists today. Don't confuse me, there is plenty of unique differences between the two, but alot of the characteristics people use to say Maryland isn't in the South, parts of the VA crescent have as well---->yet some people get up in arms when its suggested urban VA isn't strongly southern...

 

[Fletch]

East Texas sure, but the rest i’d say is more southwestern. Having lived in DFW my whole life it’s definitely not culturally like any southern state I’ve been to(Georgia,Mississippi,Tennessee,Florida,Louisiana)

 

[Scientific]

The further west you go the least Dixie it will feel. But there is no damn way East Texas isnt considered South. Houston, Porth Arthur, Lufkin, Orange, Beaumont all have deep creole & cajun roots, checkered with bayous. Texas was settled by people from across the deep South when it was it's own country before joining the Union, & then becoming a confederate state.

Today it feels less Southern than 50 years ago, but thats also true for cities like Charolette or Tampa. But that region of the state will never have much in common with Nebraska or Arizona. It is the South.

But even West Texas culture is Southern tinged. Those accents are thick out there.

 

[TallMan_J]

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[Luke Cage]

West Texas (San Antonio, El Paso, Odessa, Lubbock, Laredo) are considered the Southwest to me. That region is closer to Phoenix, Vegas, San Diego, Denver, Albuquerque, Tucson etc.

Texas is too damn big to be one region.

 

[Biscayne]

Is Your State Really Southern?


Sorry, but Your State Is Not the South

Modern Texas

Texas used to be part of the South. When the Civil War broke out, the state had been in the U.S. for fewer than 20 years, and it was relatively empty and unpopulated. Houston and Dallas had been founded within the last 25 years. Most of the population lived in East Texas, close to the border with Louisiana and Arkansas, and made their living in the cotton trade. There were so many connections between Texas and the Old South that which side it would choose was never in question.

But things are a little different 150 years later. Houston and Dallas are two of the biggest cities in the U.S., and a sizable percentage of the people who live there are first-, second-, or third-generation Texans. Most Texans self-identify as Texans first, not Southerners. Texas is big enough that it makes sense to do that. El Paso is closer to California than it is to Louisiana. And if you look at the way the state is growing and becoming more diverse, especially in the increasingly progressive big cities, it’s also positioned to align itself more with California than Georgia. You could drop Austin and the Central Texas metro area into Northern California and hardly tell the difference.

Texas A&M recently joined the SEC, which makes sense because it is located in the East of the state and has a conservative culture, but you will never see the University of Texas doing that. UT, and whichever other schools get lucky enough to join it in the next batch of conference realignment, is much more likely to join a Pac-16. The South is Texas’s past.

Exaggerated, but I agree with a few points. Austin is diffirent from the Southeast for sure. And given the number of California transplants in Austin, I can definitely see certain "Westcoast Vibes", but Austin would definitely stick out in northern California. There's still a general "Southern-Lite" Texas Twang in the accents of most native white Austinites. Same with Black Austinites.

 

[Cave Savage]

West Texas (San Antonio, El Paso, Odessa, Lubbock, Laredo) are considered the Southwest to me. That region is closer to Phoenix, Vegas, San Diego, Denver, Albuquerque, Tucson etc.

Aren't Lubbock and Amarillo close to Oklahoma? Which seems like a solidly Southern state

 

[Cave Savage]

Exaggerated, but I agree with a few points. Austin is diffirent from the Southeast for sure. And given the number of California transplants in Austin, I can definitely see certain "Westcoast Vibes", but Austin would definitely stick out in northern California. There's still a general "Southern-Lite" Texas Twang in the accents of most native white Austinites. Same with Black Austinites.

I bet it starts feeling more Southern once you leave Austin city limits. It is surrounded by rural areas and small towns.

 

[TallMan_J]

Aren't Lubbock and Amarillo close to Oklahoma? Which seems like a solidly Southern state

You’re right. But I would consider Oklahoma a “Midwest” or “Great Plains” type state. Not really “The South”. Amarillo/Lubbock are only a few hours drive from New Mexico, too.

 

[El Bombi]

in my view. Houston nikkas are very laid bacc and cool nikkas to be around. They fucc wit out of towners though they can have an issue beefing with each other alot. Not overly violent. Put money before killing. Hustlers. I guess something like Queens nikkas or Harlem nikkas. Maybe a mixture.


Dallas and to an extent Fort worth nikkas are different almost the opposite. Dallas nikkas are alot more upbeat. Very grimey sneaky and untrustworthy. A very territorial city. You can live on the next street over literally but since it's a different zip code or different neighborhood technically nikkas will not fucc wit you. Historically more violent than any other big city in Texas. Alot of legendary jack boys and robbers. So I guess you can compatriot to a Brooklyn, specifically a Brownsville or eny

Your California ass don't know shyt.

Houston is more historically violent than Dallas dumb nikka.

Houston used to be one of the top murder rate cities in the 80's and 90's.

California ass speaking on shyt you know nothing about.

 

[El Bombi]

Maybe. But as I stated before Dallas nikkas and Memphis nikkas act similar af are even sound the same.

Stop it 5

 

[El Bombi]

Memphis and Dallas ain't that much alike. I'd be with you on Little Rock, though. Little Rock is a blend of Memphis and Dallas, is influenced by both. But Memphis, nah, it's pretty different from Dallas...

That dumb nikka actually tried to say Dallas and Memphis are alike.

You're right about Little Rock being a mixture of Dallas and Memphis tho.

 

[Yaboysix]

This a stupid thread..why not ask about them other states nobody Give a fukk about..had to bring up the South lol.

 

[BrothaZay]

Your California ass don't know shyt.

Houston is more historically violent than Dallas dumb nikka.

Houston used to be one of the top murder rate cities in the 80's and 90's.

California ass speaking on shyt you know nothing about.

Dallas murder rate peaked in 1991 at 46 per 100k

Houston murder rate was never that high.

There was even a year in early 2000s where Dallas got more homicides(total) than Houston despite Houston having twice the population.

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