staticshock
Veteran
Absolutely not
He is in no way a top 15 HW
How y’all feel about Jack Dempsey?
Pic of Rocky Marciano after Ezzard Charles split his overrated nose in two
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How y’all feel about Jack Dempsey?
UpAndComing
Veteran
He dodged every single Black world title contender, so his resume is tainted. Still a legend though, first Boxing superstar of the 20th Century
He notoriously ducked Sam Langford, and many others
Erratic415
Superstar
The Cincinnati Cobra is usually regarded as #1 all time at 175.
He didn’t leave out Spinks did he?
UpAndComing
Veteran
The Cincinnati Cobra is usually regarded as #1 all time at 175.
He didn’t leave out Spinks did he?
Embarrassing
Erratic415
Superstar
Knicksman20
Superstar
Embarrassing
Ezzard Charles was that dude bro. I’m not even sure Roy in his prime could beat him & you know I rate Roy very high in his prime. Roy was the greatest fighter I’ve ever seen in my lifetime
UpAndComing
Veteran
Facts breh. Roy Jones at 160 and 168 was a beast. But his run at 175 doesn't even meet the level of Ezzard Charles at 175, not even close
The crazy thing is when I watch Ezzard Charles, power in each hand and easily a Top 5 counter puncher of all time
Is there a book written about him?
Knicksman20
Superstar
There’s one on Amazon you can grab. I’ve tried to post links from there but they never work for some reason. I think I posted this a while backFacts breh. Roy Jones at 160 and 168 was a beast. But his run at 175 doesn't even meet the level of Ezzard Charles at 175, not even close
The crazy thing is when I watch Ezzard Charles, power in each hand and easily a Top 5 counter puncher of all time
Is there a book written about him?
Boonapalist
Superstar
I wish we had more footage of him, Moore and The Murderers Row. I remember when that clip of Holman Williams dropped I rewatched it over and over.
Erratic415
Superstar
Yeah, unfortunately pretty limited footage of Charles pre-HW, and obviously very limited footage of the Black Murderers Row.
Moore has the most footage of them available, but it’s mostly of him in his 40s.
Still, the first Durelle fight is one of the greatest fights ever at 175 and one of the greatest comebacks in boxing history.
Knicksman20
Superstar
I wish there was more footage available to the public of him, Sugar Ray Robinson, & Charley Burley when they were in their prime during the 40's
UpAndComing
Veteran
It's absolutely crazy how the 1940s era of Boxing have matches that weren't filmed or have such bad film
You literally have Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney fights in 19 fukking 26 have clearer picture than fights in the 40s lol
shyt, even some fights from Jack Johnson in the early 1900s are clearer than the 1940s
Knicksman20
Superstar
I know bro! I guarantee you some rich dude/s are sitting on a mountain of archived footage of these fighters from the 30's & 40's that'll never see the light of dayIt's absolutely crazy how the 1940s era of Boxing have matches that weren't filmed or have such bad film
You literally have Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney fights in 19 fukking 26 have clearer picture than fights in the 40s lol
shyt, even some fights from Jack Johnson in the early 1900s are clearer than the 1940s
Erratic415
Superstar
I give Rock credit. H2H I pick against him versus most HW greats (and plenty of non-greats), but I think he would be excellent at cruiserweight, especially when it was 190.
I don’t care much about the 49-0 mystique, or all that much in general about the mystique around undefeated records. He should have lost to Tiger Lowry according to some people. If his career goes the same way afterwards, I don’t think really differently of him for being 48-1 as opposed to 49-0.
He had a nice 3 year run as champ. Nino Valdez should have gotten a title shot though.
His post-career life is interesting, and weird too. He was a loan shark. He hated banks, and hid his cash in various places. Apparently he didn’t tell his family, so they couldn’t recover it. He would get paid to do speaking engagements and refuse to take checks. He would only accept cash, and even take less money than originally offered if it was cash.
His friend said Rocky fukked countless women, but never had an affair because he would never do the same woman twice. He would carry around a suitcase full of vibrators. His friends called Rock “The Vibrator King”.
I don’t care much about the 49-0 mystique, or all that much in general about the mystique around undefeated records. He should have lost to Tiger Lowry according to some people. If his career goes the same way afterwards, I don’t think really differently of him for being 48-1 as opposed to 49-0.
He had a nice 3 year run as champ. Nino Valdez should have gotten a title shot though.
His post-career life is interesting, and weird too. He was a loan shark. He hated banks, and hid his cash in various places. Apparently he didn’t tell his family, so they couldn’t recover it. He would get paid to do speaking engagements and refuse to take checks. He would only accept cash, and even take less money than originally offered if it was cash.
His friend said Rocky fukked countless women, but never had an affair because he would never do the same woman twice. He would carry around a suitcase full of vibrators. His friends called Rock “The Vibrator King”.
That's different..the heavyweight champion of the world and the dividion had more status behind it..possibly more than any sport back thenIt's absolutely crazy how the 1940s era of Boxing have matches that weren't filmed or have such bad film
You literally have Jack Dempsey vs Gene Tunney fights in 19 fukking 26 have clearer picture than fights in the 40s lol
shyt, even some fights from Jack Johnson in the early 1900s are clearer than the 1940s
That's why every HW champion pre Ali is in the hall of fame