Phil's Drunk Messin' With The Association Save Again: Knicks 2015-2016 Tryout / Off Season Thread

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lol at this dude getting all defensive over the Knicks. The team fukking sucks bro, it's not an opinion.

Most feel that they need to tank to try to secure a great pick. Carmelo is hurt, JR is a dumbass and amare can't be trusted. The fukk you care about winning games this season? We can barely compete in the east, the fukk anyone thinks it will be any real benefit to sneak into the playoffs only to get bounced in the first round :childplease:
 

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lol at this dude getting all defensive over the Knicks. The team fukking sucks bro, it's not an opinion.

Most feel that they need to tank to try to secure a great pick. Carmelo is hurt, JR is a dumbass and amare can't be trusted. The fukk you care about winning games this season? We can barely compete in the east, the fukk anyone thinks it will be any real benefit to sneak into the playoffs only to get bounced in the first round :childplease:
Whats funny is yall think tanking will actually work.
 

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Whats funny is yall think tanking will actually work.
What's even more hilarious is that you think winning will do this squad any good. They won 54 games one season and saw a 17 game drop off the next. JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony both played together and got to a WCF. These guys know what it takes, the problem is that the team is flawed in the way its constructed currently. JR Smith has reached his ceiling when it comes to mental capacity...he is what he is. A volume shooter with no brain, you cannot have a dude like that as such an important part of your team and expect to go anywhere. He is a 6th man on a bad team...which is exactly what the knicks are. Amare has been to the conference finals as well, but he is unable to carry the load.

Face it breh, the reality is that tanking and getting a better pick is better than the knicks really trying to sneak into the playoffs. It won't get us a top pick and that's more important than an extra 4-5 games on the season.
 

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What's even more hilarious is that you think winning will do this squad any good. They won 54 games one season and saw a 17 game drop off the next. JR Smith and Carmelo Anthony both played together and got to a WCF. These guys know what it takes, the problem is that the team is flawed in the way its constructed currently. JR Smith has reached his ceiling when it comes to mental capacity...he is what he is. A volume shooter with no brain, you cannot have a dude like that as such an important part of your team and expect to go anywhere. He is a 6th man on a bad team...which is exactly what the knicks are. Amare has been to the conference finals as well, but he is unable to carry the load.

Face it breh, the reality is that tanking and getting a better pick is better than the knicks really trying to sneak into the playoffs. It won't get us a top pick
1. I'll never agree with tanking :pacspit:
2. Melo isn't getting any younger. Tanking, in my eyes, is completely giving up on him. You think one high draft pick will turn this around? You want to tank next season too? You think a team with the first pick in the draft will be appealing to a big free agent? (don't bring up LeBron)


Yall can get your rocks off on tanking all you want, but it's injuries that's gotten us where we are. If you can't see that this conversation is pointless.
 

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1. I'll never agree with tanking :pacspit:
2. Melo isn't getting any younger. Tanking, in my eyes, is completely giving up on him. You think one high draft pick will turn this around? You want to tank next season too? You think a team with the first pick in the draft will be appealing to a big free agent? (don't bring up LeBron)


Yall can get your rocks off on tanking all you want, but it's injuries that's gotten us where we are. If you can't see that this conversation is pointless.
You really don't understand the game of basketball do you? It's not just about the player drafted...its the fact that it will be an asset to use if any team is trying to unload an all-star if we get that 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft. The Knicks have NO high value assets outside of Carmelo Anthony that most of the league wants. We need assets in the worst way. Should we move Shumpert? That's been the question all season so far, but what can we really get for Shumpert? I think its better to keep him on the roster tbh.

Is JR Smith's IQ going to go up if everyone is healthy?

Is Amare going to be able to give us 40 minutes a game and not worry about his knees?

Is Dalembert going to get 15 years younger?

BLOW IT UP with the exception of 3-4 players
 

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I am at a point that I will co-sign the knicks trading Carmelo, Calderon, Shumpert and a top 3 pick for Anthony Davis. We need a young cornerstone to build around. I hope the knicks can get it together before Carmelo is out of his prime, but I just don't see it at this point tbh.

They might be contenders in 2-3 years, but Carmelo will be...33? He is already having back problems...the writing is on the wall IMO.
 

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You really don't understand the game of basketball do you? It's not just about the player drafted...its the fact that it will be an asset to use if any team is trying to unload an all-star if we get that 1st, 2nd or 3rd pick in the draft. The Knicks have NO high value assets outside of Carmelo Anthony that most of the league wants. We need assets in the worst way. Should we move Shumpert? That's been the question all season so far, but what can we really get for Shumpert? I think its better to keep him on the roster tbh.

Is JR Smith's IQ going to go up if everyone is healthy?

Is Amare going to be able to give us 40 minutes a game and not worry about his knees?

Is Dalembert going to get 15 years younger?

BLOW IT UP with the exception of 3-4 players
You really believe Phil and Fish are trying to lose?

Coli group-think is hilarious.
 
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I am at a point that I will co-sign the knicks trading Carmelo, Calderon, Shumpert and a top 3 pick for Anthony Davis. We need a young cornerstone to build around. I hope the knicks can get it together before Carmelo is out of his prime, but I just don't see it at this point tbh.

They might be contenders in 2-3 years, but Carmelo will be...33? He is already having back problems...the writing is on the wall IMO.

The Hornets wouldn't even pick up the phone, AD is already a top 5 player & is still on his rookie contract
 
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The second Melo signed that deal his trade value went out that window. He's now got a fat contact and is on a bad team...there's no value there.
 
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