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Absolut

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only reason some of these degenerates have any money left for these tourneys is due to stealing from millions of people with the online gaming due to fixing the games, or a ponzi scheme. most of these guys you see winning these tourneys are staked by other people, meaning they give a % of their winnings to the guy who put up the tourney money. all these guys owe people money, and most are too broke to repay it due to gambling losses. one fairly big name recently won a big world poker tour tournament here in vegas, and there was a fairly long line of dudes outside waiting to get repaid from this a$$hole borrowing and not paying his debts. guy won a million dollars in the tourney, and left the casino with zero after paying everyone he owed

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/08/fellow-pros-air-chino-rheem-s-debts-publicly-10845.htm
 

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phil ivey went from a bum sleeping on the street to a multimillionaire solely on his poker skills. the only reason he even made it to full tilt....was because of his poker skills

no matter how hard you try to make all of them look like degenerate losers...doesnt mean lots of them like ivey, dwan, antonius arent beasts in poker and cant make millions of dollars just playing internet poker with random people.
 

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they cant make millions of dollars anymore on online poker. big games dont exsist there anymore. theres probably less than 25 legit pro poker players, who arent piled up with debt, and actually enter tourneys with their own money and are profitable in their lifetimes. the rest is a huge mirage. people from the outside staking tourney money in exchange for winnings, sponsorships from fraudulent gaming companies, fleecing fellow poker players online or by borrowing and not paying up, rigging games etc is how a lot of these guys get by
 

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Some of you don't know shyt about poker and just talking out your ass. Makes you look real uninformed and ignorant.
 

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they cant make millions of dollars anymore on online poker. big games dont exsist there anymore. theres probably less than 25 legit pro poker players, who arent piled up with debt, and actually enter tourneys with their own money and are profitable in their lifetimes. the rest is a huge mirage. people from the outside staking tourney money in exchange for winnings, sponsorships from fraudulent gaming companies, fleecing fellow poker players online or by borrowing and not paying up, rigging games etc is how a lot of these guys get by
like Ive said, you gotta start somewhere. dwan earned millions by himself before he even joined big games and full tilt.

there are plenty of online poker sites in europe that have big games and will continue to do so. you gotta stop looking at it from purely american perspective
 
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