Take It In Blood
Banned
Oschino from Rocafella
Phanatik from 2x grammy nominated Christian Rap group "Da Cross Movement" throws religion in bushes
im not familiar with him
i also am an advocate for eastern christianity to western christians for a variety of reasons
TheKongoEmpire
The First Men
TheColi hates him!
One less black person worshiping the slave masters god
I think it's funny how ppl here are problack and hate racism and slavery but have no compunction about keeping a religion that was given to their enslaved forbearers. I honestly think most of them wouldn't stop slavery if that meant they couldn't be believers on the Abrahamic faiths. I know that's a very, very strong statement but look how popular these religious threads are. God is good but not good enough to stop them from slavery. Go figure.
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The way it was framed is somewhat distorted.
First off, Bart Ehrman is mostly famous as a critic of Christianity. I'm not saying he's a bad scholar, but if he didn't spend all his time debating Christians and trying to tear down the foundations of the Bible, he wouldn't be a notable figure. The framing made it seem like he's some towering legend in New Testament studies who happens to be a skeptic of the Bible, when it would be more accurate to portray him as a towering figure in Bible skepticism who happens to be a decent scholar. A lot of the stuff he says is distorted/exaggerated because he's trying to win arguments and isn't exactly honest framing of the issue from an academic position.
Second, Bart Ehrman became a skeptic when he was just a student, not after he was any sort of known scholar. He had been raised in a very naive fundamentalist view of Scripture, so when he discovered that different Biblical manuscripts have different spellings or word orders (which accounts for the vast majority of "errors" he lists when he claims), and that in a few cases even certain verses are different, it destroyed his naive faith. To me that's a slightly embarrassing life story, because anyone who has read a study Bible should know that there are a limited number of verses which appear in certain manuscripts but not in others, and that some have slightly different wordings. This is common knowledge, but because he was raised up in fundamental evangelism, he didn't realize it until he went to Bible college. And because his faith was based on something so flimsy, that's all it took to lose it.
Personally, I believe that God has always used humans to transmit his message, and he doesn't treat humans like puppets or unthinking robots. Bart Ehrman's original critique of Christianity relies on the claim that a real God would have forced every single scribe in history to copy every single Biblical manuscript with the exact same wordings and spellings or else....what? Would God strike them dead if they started to write something differently? Would he make their pen stop working? Would they lose control of their hand and feel it forced to copy the "right" words, rather than the words they were going to write? Of course there are going to be different manuscripts, that's part of being human. Has Ehrman ever proven that the existence of different Biblical manuscripts has completely distorted the Christian faith and destroyed Jesus's original intent? I haven't seen him be successful in that at all, which is why he leans so heavily into the weak "5,000 different manuscripts!" argument, which is more of a debate point than a serious theological concern.
“Misquoting” Jesus?, Answering Bart Ehrman | Bible.org
Christian Apologetics takes a look at claims against the trustworthiness of the Bible we have today.
trillanova
The Truth
Christianity is a mid tier spiritual cult, but the Bible is still a meaningful and powerful book if studied and mediated on properly.
The Universe is at it's essence made of consciousness. Quantum physics dabbles in this idea so this is not some purely metaphysical concept. There's science to support it.
This consciousness in not Human. It existed a dozen billion years plus before Humans. Before physical life forms period.
The reason you can tell that this Universe is not random activity is because "something" comes from "nothing" here. The physical Universe itself, the different elements came into existence in an order, DNA formed itself out of "nowhere".
This increase in complexity is the simplest evidence that there is an active force doing things purposefully.
This consciousness is what we call G-d. But G-d is not strictly your friend.
G-d IS your best friend and most powerful ally, but also your greatest challenge and your worst threat. Cause G-d is literally everything. You're inside of it though, it does not travel from here to there because it is here and it is there. The physical space is also made of the same stuff as the energy and matter .
Consciousness.
The issue with religion is they boil it down to a sort of childlike simplistic view, and they add a bunch of straight up fantasies.. which might metaphorically be useful, but these days the religious portray their fantasies as literally real.
And they will murder whole continents full of people over that shyt.
This consciousness in not Human. It existed a dozen billion years plus before Humans. Before physical life forms period.
The reason you can tell that this Universe is not random activity is because "something" comes from "nothing" here. The physical Universe itself, the different elements came into existence in an order, DNA formed itself out of "nowhere".
This increase in complexity is the simplest evidence that there is an active force doing things purposefully.
This consciousness is what we call G-d. But G-d is not strictly your friend.
G-d IS your best friend and most powerful ally, but also your greatest challenge and your worst threat. Cause G-d is literally everything. You're inside of it though, it does not travel from here to there because it is here and it is there. The physical space is also made of the same stuff as the energy and matter .
Consciousness.
The issue with religion is they boil it down to a sort of childlike simplistic view, and they add a bunch of straight up fantasies.. which might metaphorically be useful, but these days the religious portray their fantasies as literally real.
And they will murder whole continents full of people over that shyt.
From now on if anyone wants to speak to me about God, Jesus, or any of it; I’ll say I don’t speak to middle management. I talk to the boss.
you know, i have touched on reading this as another frame of reference when considering the Bible (and any holy text for that matter)
ANCIENT EGYPT : On NUN : on precreation in the Pyramid Texts
Liber Nun : the role of Nu, Noun or Nun in the Pyramid Texts of the Old Kingdom
www.sofiatopia.org
it is still a mystery to me that the Old Testament would have been compiled/translated into the Septuagint by the Ptolemaic dynasty
D1renegade
All Star
Why would an all powerful perfect God allow his Word, the most vital representation of himself, to be imperfect? He can create the universe but he can’t will essays to be written without errors? Even Spell check in Microsoft Word could’ve done that.Personally, I believe that God has always used humans to transmit his message, and he doesn't treat humans like puppets or unthinking robots. Bart Ehrman's original critique of Christianity relies on the claim that a real God would have forced every single scribe in history to copy every single Biblical manuscript with the exact same wordings and spellings or else....what? Would God strike them dead if they started to write something differently? Would he make their pen stop working? Would they lose control of their hand and feel it forced to copy the "right" words, rather than the words they were going to write? Of course there are going to be different manuscripts, that's part of being human. Has Ehrman ever proven that the existence of different Biblical manuscripts has completely distorted the Christian faith and destroyed Jesus's original intent? I haven't seen him be successful in that at all, which is why he leans so heavily into the weak "5,000 different manuscripts!" argument, which is more of a debate point than a serious theological concern.
“Misquoting” Jesus?, Answering Bart Ehrman | Bible.org
Christian Apologetics takes a look at claims against the trustworthiness of the Bible we have today.bible.org
It seems you accept that there are grammatical errors in the Bible, why stop there? If those aren’t free from corruption, then why wouldn’t the actual content also be subject to it? Whose to say the people, events, and timelines mentioned in the scriptures are 100% accurate?
@Ghost Utmost any books you recommend that talk about the universe being made if consciousness?
Start with the quantum physics angle. The double blind (edit: DOUBLE **SLIT**) experiment. The effect of the researchers expectations changing the outcome of experiments.
String theory. Brane theory.
Fukc with a book eventually if you get the bug, but to start.. just get off into a YouTube rabbit hole.
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you're assuming "sola scriptura" which is a protestant doctrine
in eastern Christianity the scriptures are like the foundation of the church, when interpreted properly
if you are the temple of God, and God dwells in you. Consider your statements in context to what you're asking. The more interesting question is why would God conceive of you in the first place, and in a land where there are innumerable interpretations of him? If you assume he wants to control you (and everything else) your first thought about how he functions is one of direct control
being that he made our bodies, even our control was architected such that even though you can only think of certain things, your body still manages despite your thoughts.
And you are conceived in a place where you have the free will and choice to accept or reject him and debate 2000+ year old peoples accuracy and compare it with millions of other takes/interpretations
so which is it? controlling God or God who conceived you into a deliberate free will setting?
one of the interesting things about the double slit experiment is that if the researchers attempted to measure the light/electron source of either beam it would distort and collapse the wave pattern. It's the basis for the "quantum decision field" theories that hold up Heisenbergs uncertainty principle
remember when people used to ask if you had a super-power what would it be? :
well if you take your greatest strengths and traits, what type of superpower would that be? mine is "perception" i have an eerie ability to know the full data at just glances and my assumptions always come out on point. so therefore my superpower would be : Telepathy! whats yours?
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what did people believe in before they believed in what you believe in¿
why does the story keep changing¿
if there is only one truth where do these different stories keep popping up from¿
the deity(deities) just sit back & let us get lost¿
then the blame is ours when all mistakes only happen because the creator makes all things possible¿
yeah it's easy to understand why folks stop following religion/spirituality/superstition..........
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why does the story keep changing¿
if there is only one truth where do these different stories keep popping up from¿
the deity(deities) just sit back & let us get lost¿
then the blame is ours when all mistakes only happen because the creator makes all things possible¿
yeah it's easy to understand why folks stop following religion/spirituality/superstition..........
ha
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