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eh I'm kinda skeptical it seems like an anti arbitration/mediation court organization

what exactly happens if there's a "sharia court" wedding? does british law not require civil marriage papers?

What's are the girls options zerozero?

What exactly is she supposed to do?


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yea I don't think that should be a used as a reason to shut down the whole out of court sharia system.. there should be more transparency / accountability maybe

They're marrying off little girls to grown men.

For the love of all logic and reason.
 

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yea I don't think that should be a used as a reason to shut down the whole out of court sharia system.. there should be more transparency / accountability maybe

:what: Dude you are too smart for your own good sometimes. You can't see every perspective so much that you end up in intellectual and moral stasis. They're sanctioning CHILD RAPE for fukk's sake.
 

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wait you guys are confusing me :ohhh: they're sanctioning blah blah and therefore..? The regular british court system has sanctioned many a horror too should we get rid of that as well? Clearly the answer is to not sanction child marriage, that's all there is to it
 

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eh I'm kinda skeptical it seems like an anti arbitration/mediation court organization

what exactly happens if there's a "sharia court" wedding? does british law not require civil marriage papers?

I mean, as long as it doesn't contradict the law of the UK, it should be legal. The problem is that some Sharia edicts do indeed contradict UK law, so it seems like a matter of deciding whether people will accept only having some degree of Sharia in their communities or not.

The other problem is that if these other edicts don't contradict laws of the land but still aren't legal, then people shouldn't be punished within their communities for disobeying them, which does often happen in these cases.

Basically, I see a very limited application for unofficial religious law zones in secular nations. Most of what I see as acceptable would just fall under the ability to exercise some form of cultural community.
 

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wait you guys are confusing me :ohhh: they're sanctioning blah blah and therefore..? The regular british court system has sanctioned many a horror too should we get rid of that as well? Clearly the answer is to not sanction child marriage, that's all there is to it

You're a sick fukk. Little 5 year old girls are being married off to grown men in a justice system that for some odd fukking reason exists outside the British justice system.
 

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I mean, as long as it doesn't contradict the law of the UK, it should be legal. The problem is that some Sharia edicts do indeed contradict UK law, so it seems like a matter of deciding whether people will accept only having some degree of Sharia in their communities or not.

The other problem is that if these other edicts don't contradict laws of the land but still aren't legal, then people shouldn't be punished within their communities for disobeying them, which does often happen in these cases.

Basically, I see a very limited application for unofficial religious law zones in secular nations. Most of what I see as acceptable would just fall under the ability to exercise some form of cultural community.

Why is there a separate justice system there? I'm not educated on the British legal system.

Doesn't having a separate legal system in its entirety invalidate the process of a true justice system for all?
 

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You're a sick fukk. Little 5 year old girls are being married off to grown men in a justice system that for some odd fukking reason exists outside the British justice system.

Calm down and use your fukking brain for a second. You read one fukking flyer from an atheist / anti-out-of-court-settlement organization and you're ready to go to get mad at me. You'd be the first person to trip over the ACORN vid too in another context. There isn't an "alternate justice system", period.
 

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Thanks. That first article is disturbing man. Especially the beginning.

After being beaten repeatedly by her husband – who had also threatened to kill her – Jameela turned to her local Sharia council in a desperate bid for a way out of her marriage. Today she discovers the verdict. Playing nervously with her hands, the young mother-of-three listens as the panel of judges discuss whether they should grant her a divorce.
The council meets once a month at the Birmingham Central Mosque. Many of the cases relate to divorce and involve the husbands and wives entering the room separately to make their appeals.
In an airless room in the bowels of the mosque, Jameela is asked to explain why she wants a divorce. She replies that her husband spends most of his time with his second wife – Islamic law allows men to have up to four wives – but complains he is abusive whenever he returns to her home.
Across the desk, Dr Mohammed Naseem, chair of the mosque’s Sharia council, sits alongside Talha Bokhari, a white-robed imam, and Amra Bone, the only woman sitting on an Islamic court in this country.
While a husband is not required to go through official channels to gain a divorce – being able to achieve this merely by uttering the word “talaq” – Islamic law requires that the wife must persuade the judges to grant her a dissolution.

Such a primitive religion.

I'm reading the second now.
 

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wait you guys are confusing me :ohhh: they're sanctioning blah blah and therefore..? The regular british court system has sanctioned many a horror too should we get rid of that as well? Clearly the answer is to not sanction child marriage, that's all there is to it

Another problem is that British law can be changed and is not thought to be of divine origin. Would Muslims who want to follow Sharia be ok with only following part of Sharia and dismissing or changing the rest?
 

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Another problem is that British law can be changed and is not thought to be of divine origin. Would Muslims who want to follow Sharia be ok with only following part of Sharia and dismissing or changing the rest?

there has to be a harmonization process if there's a conflict.. it's not like sharia is some god-given code except for a handful of things it's an interpreted system anyway

from the articles I think it's a mistake if people are getting married just in these systems there should be an understanding that if you're getting married you should get it registered officially
 

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there has to be a harmonization process if there's a conflict.. it's not like sharia is some god-given code except for a handful of things it's an interpreted system anyway

from the articles I think it's a mistake if people are getting married just in these systems there should be an understanding that if you're getting married you should get it registered officially

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