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ward also came off a 2 year layoff and he beat the shyt out of paul smith, a better fighter than dashon johnson, and who had just gave abe all that he could handle...quillin, a former WBO MW world champion, should have been able to do better considering his ass wasnt injured or fighting a lawsuit...you know how i am about fighters that dont move right
quillin has been on my bad side way before that..i feel that he wasted his prime for nothingDude's wife has had three miscarriages, a death in the family and caring for his father with his illness. Give him some slack.
quillin has been on my bad side way before that..i feel that he wasted his prime for nothing
i know the WBO belt is a real one...there's no comments of me saying otherwiseHe won WBO belt a REAL belt
If you wanna talk bout wasted prime....
Who do you have winning Berto vs Alexander? I pretty much think they are the same guy more or less. Do you dismiss Berto’s loss to Porter because of the head butts? Who do you think has had the better career and where does the winner go?
Bread’s Response: Um…..this is a close fight. I wouldn’t be surprised by a DRAW to be honest. Berto has better punch delivery and he hits harder. But Alexander uses a jab more, he’s physically stronger and he’s shown that he’s more durable. Neither guy is a lights out boxer that you can’t touch, so they don’t run away with 6 or 7 rounds in a row. Berto may have an advantage because Virgil Hunter his trainer went up against Alexander a few years ago with Amir Khan and they really had him figured out but Berto and Khan are different. This is a really close fight in my opinion.
I will say I disagree about them being the same guy. Alexander has not had the same matchmaking Berto has had. Alexander has faced killers throughout his career every since his early 20s. Coming through the ranks he fought Demarcus Corley. Ask Floyd Mayweather, Zab Judah and Miguel Cotto how dangerous and tricky Corley can be. Alexander then fought Junior Witter for his title at 140. Witter is very underrated and was just the kind of guy that Berto never had to face. At 140 Alexander also faced Kotelnik a (silver medalist), Bradley (HOF) and a prime Lucas Matthysse. Alexander also fought two unification fights at 140. He had no showcase title fights.
Then at 147 he fought a prime Marcos Maidana, a dangerous Randall Bailey, and a prime Amir Khan and Shawn Porter. Devon Alexander only has about 30 career fights and they made that kid rumble. He has 4 losses and I’m not claiming he’s a HOF because he’s not, but his resume is one to be respected. For whatever reasons I don’t know, but Andre Berto never had to fight those types of fights. So while Berto may have an advantage because his coach went up against Alexander before, Alexander may have an advantage because he’s use to being under the gun much more in his career. Berto has been in some wars in tough fights, but they were surprise wars in fights where he was the big favorite. Like Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero and Jesus Soto Karass. Before the fights people expected Berto to handle them. It’s a little different as to how Devon has been matched in his career.
No I don’t dismiss the Porter fight for Berto. I don’t dismiss Berto’s great 1 punch ko of Freddy Hernandez. So why should I dismiss a tough loss? Boxing doesn’t work that way. When an old great fighter loses late in his career like say Ali to Trevor Berbick you can dismiss it. But you have to attain a certain level of greatness 1st and you have to be old and done. Berto is not that old by today’s standards. I think he has ability still, Porter was just too rough and relentless and that’s style that Berto has had trouble with in the past.
I think Alexander has had the slightly better career as far as boxing accomplishments and regard. He fought tougher fighters for his belts and he unified partially at 140. Berto has made much more money and that does count. So that may be a push.
The winner is in a good position to make some money solid money vs a BIG name. The loser is in a tough spot.
i know the WBO belt is a real one...there's no comments of me saying otherwise
you keep my debating sharp choc..that is if i dont drop a or aHad you on the ropes went for the kill N lunged right into the counter
Remind me I need to read thisfrom bread's mailbag about this fight