Paying for XBL

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As a user of both the folks that say XBL is better usually say that to justify it's fee.

I absolutely see NO difference in the apps, service or usability. I experience lag on XBL as well as PSN.

Youtube app works the same on XBL as it does on PSN.

Netflix same story. Besides the ESPN thing(which again can be accessed free elsewhere), it's really no advantage to using the XBL service.

I can send messages, voice/video chat on PSN using ANY usb camera/mic.

On XBL I can send voice messages, voice/video chat but ONLY with a Gold subscription AND a proprietary M$ headset/Cam.

Unless I'm missing something, there really isn't much difference between the two besides the look, feel and a few bells and whistles.

It's not expensive for XBL but that's not the point you silly xbots, it's the fact that they charge you for access to free stuff that performs virtually no different than it's free counterparts. If I paid for XBL I shouldn't receive ANY lag on it's flagship titles especially.



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOsT0KZvhlY"]Gears of War 3 Insane Lag - YouTube[/ame]
Come on man they say this game has dedi's??

I know it's impossible to eliminate EVERY piece of lag across millions of users but sh1t like this happens very often among a great deal of players. It's bewildering to see people bash PSN for uncontrollable lag and then turn a blind eye to the blatant lag on XBL. On PSN lag is because PSN sucks but then on XBL lag is because "you using that fugazi connection" :childplease:


Until M$ can show me better online performance(ping based matchmaking, dedi's, w/e), exclusive features and not gimmicks like "kinect chat" then they won't change my mind about XBL costs being unnecessary.
I think the reason lots of people just cling to XBL is when XBL launch it was new at the time and wasn't mainstream so charging for it didn't seem out of the ordinary. People made friends online and cherished their GT so switching over to 360 wasn't going to be a big issue for most. People have invested months and years of gaming on a single GT so they'll pay for it just to keep using it is what I sense most players do and feel.
 
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list the things that are better, i dont recall them?

No mandatory installs
No hour installs
No slow ass store speeds
Exclusive DLC
party chat
Free-to-Play Gaming
Cloud Storage
Early Access to Some Demos
Smart Glass
Video Kinect
Espn,hbo, league pass app etc
Internet explore on that bs
Streaming>>> that Canavia DRM bs
FTP games are the future
reliable dont have to worry about not gaming online for a month http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage
Achievements>>> Slow ass trophy lowouts

The dash as a whole is much more organized period.

I can go on
 

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I don't recall the last time I paid more than $40 for a year's worth of XBL. $3 a month for a superior service is a no-brainer to me, it's that simple.
 

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No mandatory installs
No hour installs
No slow ass store speeds
Exclusive DLC
party chat
Free-to-Play Gaming
Cloud Storage
Early Access to Some Demos
Smart Glass
Video Kinect
Espn,hbo, league pass app etc
Internet explore on that bs
Streaming>>> that Canavia DRM bs
FTP games are the future
reliable
Achievements>>> Slow ass trophy lowouts

The dash as a whole is much more organized period.

I can go on


you dont have mandatory installs but you would be stupid not to install your games to the hard drive.

hour long installs? i have no idea what you are talking about

exclusive DLC is a dirty tactic to attract players. while sony put their money into new studio's and IPs, MS put their money into taking DLC away from other users. they dont create new content they just take it away from playstation users.

party chat? if i wanted to circle jerk i could always use teamspeak

free to play? :facepalm: you do know sony are the ones leading in this field?


cloud storage? sony has more space and also got that before MS. but you do need PS+ to use it

early access to some demo's? wrong lol. also thats another point, you need a gold sub in order to download new demo's

smartglass? i dont fully understand or use this feature

nobody owns a kinect

i cant even be bothered to continue lol

also the dash is a mess and constantly throws ads at you smh
 

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In before Cockmeat fukks the thread up..

they charge you for using FREE apps

This is the thing that must have people at MS goin :pachaha:

Charging for access to play games online via their servers is pretty much :yeshrug: You might not like it but fair enough.

..but charging motherfukkers to access shyt they've already paid a subscription for (that they can access and utilise everywhere else for free), or charging people to access FREE services that YOU DON'T EVEN OWN YOURSELVES is the real :dwillhuh: :wtf: :mindblown: :deadmanny: :birdman: :myman: :russ: shyt

But it's not just MS' fault. The owners of those services are co-signing this shyt and perpetuating the situation. If your service is big enough then you could make it onto XBL without limiting it to Gold members. Look at the BBC in the UK with their iPlayer. The BBC don't have ads on their tv channels, on their radio stations or their website and if MS wanted their catchup/on-demand service on XBL they didn't want their service limited to paying members only, it had to be free for all so they held out. That's why they're the only (I think the only) video app that's free to use for all people on the Xbox. It can be done but truthfully, none of those businesses give a fukk that much about the end-user. They want the $$$
 

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No mandatory installsCan be seen as pro/con
No hour installsExaggerated Xbot jargon. Only game I remember that was really long was MGS4 and I'd say it was worth it.
No slow ass store speedsTrue
Exclusive DLCPer title and timed to be exact. BF3, AssCreed, Portal 2 PC crossplay are exclusive to PS3
party chatCool in some games but ultimately ruined that "community" feel you guys love talking. Gears 1,Halo 3 i.e. old Xbox live titles were fun back then because of the rowdy lobbies and no holds bar-ness.
Free-to-Play Gaming:wtf: u talking about?
Cloud StoragePS+ has it too.
Early Access to Some DemosLike?? PSN+ has been getting early access to stuff for a while now(BF3)
Smart GlassOk
Video KinectUhh?? Idk but if you mean Video chat then I can plug in any camera to my PS3 and video chat for free
Espn,hbo, league pass app etcConvenient but again these services aren't ONLY available on XBl. Anyone who has league pass, ESPN,Hbo GO has the box and everything needed already.
Internet explore on that bsPS3 has a browser and yes it has been updated so it's better than before.
Streaming>>> that Canavia DRM bsBlame Cinavia and that can be circumvented.
FTP games are the future???
reliable dont have to worry about not gaming online for a month LOL. That was one time :pacspit: but again that's not gauranteed to always be true. Anything can be hacked stop being so gullible. M$ Windows is prone to HEAVY viruses etc so don't act like M$ stuff is untouchable.PlayStation Network outage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Achievements>>> Slow ass trophy lowoutswhat?

The dash as a whole is much more organized period. On the contrary I find the XMB sleeker and more organized. The dashboard limits customization due to the big boxes covering the screen. It gets marketing done better though I'll say.

I can go on
 

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you dont have mandatory installs but you would be stupid not to install your games to the hard drive.



hour long installs? i have no idea what you are talking about
:kat: is you drunk or retarded, BF3 updates take a 30 minutes to a hour itself. Let's not get on the manadtory update :ld:

exclusive DLC is a dirty tactic to attract players. while sony put their money into new studio's and IPs, MS put their money into taking DLC away from other users. they dont create new content they just take it away from playstation users.
:umad:

party chat? if i wanted to circle jerk i could always use teamspeak
:laff:

free to play? :facepalm: you do know sony are the ones leading in this field?
Sony has flopped games that they turned FTP, MS has legit studios making FTP games:laff:

cloud storage? sony has more space and also got that before MS. but you do need PS+ to use it
you said PSN not plus :kat:

early access to some demo's? wrong lol. also thats another point, you need a gold sub in order to download new demo's
Aint we talking about XBL :laff:
smartglass? i dont fully understand or use this feature
I know you dont :troll:
nobody owns a kinect
:dead:

i cant even be bothered to continue lol

also the dash is a mess and constantly throws ads at you smh
 

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They only pay because its the only way to play multiplayer. Guarantee if you could play online using silver no xbot would be paying for gold. They spout all this other crap bout party chat and xyz but they just trying to justify their "L". Its really pathetic when you consider that not only do they get raped paying for live most of their systems end up like this :deadmanny:
 
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I have A XBOX and I made the mistake of buying
that over hyped bluray player that is the ps3...
XBOX is just a better experience.
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Its a con , con all the way i like to CHOOSE my options

exagerrated in what sense :kat:, even the updates take long xbl updates are what 2 minutes?

exclusive DLC to ps3 is rare, and its never the big titles.

party chats good in every game, and yea it ruined the ingame chat community aint like ps3 has one to compare :leon:. developers have options how to utilize it though

since when was this about psn+ :wtf:

once again psn+ :kat:
services are easier on XBL end of story you can do whatever after playing the game instead of changing settings. its funny the same people who complain about switching disk want to willing move off the coach now :shaq:

ps3 browser= :flabbynsick:

Cinavia= :trash:

I never had no virius problems with xbl, on the other hand i had to change my CC number because of psn
XMB is all over the place, i understand the concept but its slow as shyt moving through different locations.
 

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In before Cockmeat fukks the thread up..
But it's not just MS' fault. The owners of those services are co-signing this shyt and perpetuating the situation. If your service is big enough then you could make it onto XBL without limiting it to Gold members. Look at the BBC in the UK with their iPlayer. The BBC don't have ads on their tv channels, on their radio stations or their website and if MS wanted their catchup/on-demand service on XBL they didn't want their service limited to paying members only, it had to be free for all so they held out. That's why they're the only (I think the only) video app that's free to use for all people on the Xbox. It can be done but truthfully, none of those businesses give a fukk that much about the end-user. They want the $$$

yeah by law the BBC isnt allowed ads and has to be available for free

it still took them 3 years to agree to it though. MS were never gonna allow the bbciplayer on xbox because of this
 

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Its a con , con all the way i like to CHOOSE my options


Again not every game has obligatory installs. It's a one time thing too. I'm shocked you not talking about the mandated Halo 4 MP install.

exagerrated in what sense :kat:, even the updates take long xbl updates are what 2 minutes? Updates don't take more than a few minutes on PS3 too stop with the ducktales.

exclusive DLC to ps3 is rare, and its never the big titles.
Yea like the Joker DLC for Batman, Assains creed and again there are TIMED exclusives to 360 sometimes not ALL the way.

party chats good in every game, and yea it ruined the ingame chat community aint like ps3 has one to compare :leon:. developers have options how to utilize it though
Uhh Lol ps3 ain't got no community? :snoop: You clearly didn't play UC2/Uc3, Killzone 2/3 or any other Ps3 game online multiplat or not. The only game I think you've really played online on PS3 is BF3 which people surprisingly don't use mics on. I've had some crazy gaming sessions online playing Uncharted and Killzone. It's the same now people hardly ever talk on XBL unless you in a party. For the gamers who get online with their friends all at the same time they're alienating themselves from others under the guise of being in a local community.
since when was this about psn+ :wtf:
PSN+ is optional and gives those extra features if wanted or not. XbL again charged you for what is given on PSN, Window live or w/e for FREE.


services are easier on XBL end of story you can do whatever after playing the game instead of changing settings. its funny the same people who complain about switching disk want to willing move off the coach now :shaq:
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what? What the hell are you talking about?? There is NO expertise needed or any added difficulty in "services" on PSN apps. Man :umad:
ps3 browser= :flabbynsick:
:umad: U gotta pay for Internet Explorer yet IE is free on Windows, Mac, and elsewhere.

Cinavia= :trash:

I never had no virius problems with xbl, on the other hand i had to change my CC number because of psn
XMB is all over the place, i understand the concept but its slow as shyt moving through different locations.
Really?? Wtf was you buying then since you don't play on PSN?? :duck: Out of the hacks hardly anybody had severe issues that fukked them over. EVEN if worse case scenario they did get their shyt taken, the bank would've rectified the shyt immediately. You acting as if nikkas who hacked PSN done bought benz's and Mercedes Coupe's off of nikkas CC. Hell people get their info stolen everyday so this isn't relegated only to PSN let's not be silly now.
 

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No mandatory installs
No hour installs
No slow ass store speeds
Exclusive DLC
party chat

Free-to-Play Gaming
Cloud Storage
Early Access to Some Demos
Smart Glass
Video Kinect
Espn,hbo, league pass app etc
Internet explore on that bs
Streaming>>> that Canavia DRM bs
FTP games are the future
reliable dont have to worry about not gaming online for a month PlayStation Network outage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Achievements>>> Slow ass trophy lowouts

The dash as a whole is much more organized period.


I can go on

bolded are free for silver members dumbass.


and you idiots really think that money from xbl speed up the production of a demo or and dlc? NO, you get the dlc or demo the same time regardless of time exclusive, in reality its just delays the release for psn. so basically youre paying for bragging rights. :clap:
 
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