Paul Heyman On The Best Way To Make Modern Pro Wrestling Matter

[CBoz]

It is that simple, he should have ended it with "give the fans what they want".

Here is the dilemma. Everybody wants different things.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

It is that simple, he should have ended it with "give the fans what they want".

No the reason I’m saying it’s not that simple cuz take the first example of “who are these 2 people?”


Well hell if you been watching a particular product for a minute. You are already know who they are.

Im gonna use the E as an example;

We already know who Orton is
We already know who Brock is
We already know who KO is
We already know who Charlotte is

Some people, yea you can tweak a thing or 2 here and there…… but for people who they love to parade around practically every week of every year.

We kind of get to know them really quick. That’s why I like the prospect of not having the same taken showcased EVERY WEEK and give them a little breathing by letting them go away for a week or 2 so they don’t get over saturated or stale

 

[DaHNIC82]

This man took a generic story on paper between Dreamer and Raven and made them stars. Paul knows what hes talking about

 

[Finn Baller]

The fans are getting what they want in AEW and its boring as hell. Your product and direction should be so compelling and focused that it becomes what the fans want.

pro wrestling used to be about working the people to get to the direction you want and

No the reason I’m saying it’s not that simple cuz take the first example of “who are these 2 people?”


Well hell if you been watching a particular product for a minute. You are already know who they are.

Im gonna use the E as an example;

We already know who Orton is
We already know who Brock is
We already know who KO is
We already know who Charlotte is

Some people, yea you can tweak a thing or 2 here and there…… but for people who they love to parade around practically every week of every year.

We kind of get to know them really quick. That’s why I like the prospect of not having the same taken showcased EVERY WEEK and give them a little breathing by letting them go away for a week or 2 so they don’t get over saturated or stale

If I'm spending $100+ on tickets/parking/merch to take my kids to see wrestling, I better see all the stars in the promotion on the card unless they're injured or special attraction types like Brock. Same reason "load management" in the NBA is total trash.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

pro wrestling used to be about working the people to get to the direction you want and


If I'm spending $100+ on tickets/parking/merch to take my kids to see wrestling, I better see all the stars in the promotion on the card unless they're injured or special attraction types like Brock. Same reason "load management" in the NBA is total trash.

I feel you but I’m also looking at that UFC model.

Im sorry Jon Jones not on ever show…

But that’s why you had your Silva and Cormier and McGregor, GSP, and so on

Better to build and have multiple stars than put it all on one persons back

 

[Finn Baller]

I feel you but I’m also looking at that UFC model.

Im sorry Jon Jones not on ever show…

But that’s why you had your Silva and Cormier and McGregor, GSP, and so on

Better to build and have multiple stars than put it all on one persons back

I'm not saying the world champion needs to defend the title or wrestle on every show, but he damn sure better be cutting promos or doing backstage segments every week because people are paying to see him

 

[Grifter]

UFC can only build stars if they win actual fights. WWE can give someone a streak and promotion and make them a star.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I'm not saying the world champion needs to defend the title or wrestle on every show, but he damn sure better be cutting promos or doing backstage segments every week because people are paying to see him

Part of the reason Hogan and Flair felt special was cuz they were limited on TV.

If you wanted to see them you had to by a PPV

I get what you saying and I don’t necessarily disagree

But I remember them shows in the 80s

 

[Finn Baller]

Part of the reason Hogan and Flair felt special was cuz they were limited on TV.

If you wanted to see them you had to by a PPV

I get what you saying and I don’t necessarily disagree

But I remember them shows in the 80s

wrestling was bigger/more mainstream/more profitable in the Attitude Era and Austin, Rock, Sable, and Vince were on every single Raw when shyt was hot

 

[Art Barr]

Part of the reason Hogan and Flair felt special was cuz they were limited on TV.

If you wanted to see them you had to by a PPV

I get what you saying and I don’t necessarily disagree

But I remember them shows in the 80s

No.

Not originally.
Hogun worked originally because you saw him weekly squash someone.
Hogun beczme phoney because once they took him off weekly squash based tv.
It created the jig being up.
As hogun was not an adept enough worker in any metric.
Plus he neededthose squashes to keep his audience. Once he started only being a ppv draw. Plus only being on snme Nd having declining match quality ever since he beat mr wonderful is why hogun ruined it for himself.

Once snme became a thing.
Where now the narrative is older people have the prevalent show and discussion over the children. who discovered and made hogun into hogun.
Hogun was going to be reduced to the opinion on a grand scale governed by adults.

Which once adults got to see what hulkamania was.
The word phoney became real and hulkamania became phoney. Where now every kid watching hoping to see hogun.
Now is met with an older audience like...man, hogun Is phoney.

Hogun created phoney.
as an actual general term in the social verbal american lexicon.

Which he was never able to escape.
Once hogun moved away from the squash match formula.
To try to make adult buyers purchase a ppv.
After moving wwf into snme and ppv category. When originally wwf.
aired as a saturday morning gap bridging programming marketing demographic element.
In the transistion of saturday major network cartoon viewing.
to local saturday afternoon broadcaster saturday viewing opposite cbs sports.

Once wwf placed themselves in the gateway of adult after hour tv with snme.
Away from their original early afternoon lunch children saturday morning cartoon demographic.
It eventually spelled doom and how hogun jumped to wcw.
Then ruined wcw. Before wcw figured to appease the demographic.
hogun was moved to via the wwf's snme run originally.
By creating the nwo and making nitro.

Art Barr

 

[Breh Obama]

Pro wrestling is very simple and can be boiled down to three things:

Who are these two people?
Why are they fighting?
Why should I care enough to pay to see it?

If you answer those three questions you will be successful.

These are key concepts in business in general

WWE is falling at all of them

 

[Art Barr]

Nuffin but the real spoken by paul e.


Art Barr