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Pac's Letter to Chuck D
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Its nice to see that Pac and Chuck had a good relationship. I wasn't the hugest fan of Pac's music, mainly because the production was too inferior for his subject matter. Plus I hated seeing someone with such a brilliant young mind get distracted by the immaturity and subsequent ignorance that eventuality took his life. In the same way Malcolm's fiery tongue and increased prominence led to his death, Pac's inability to insulate himself from bullsh!t culminated in losing his life in the most ignominious way in my opinion. That was the difference between him and other conscious brothers still with us today such as Chuck, Nas, and Cube. His behavior and choice of association ultimately betrayed his limitless potential.
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
Its nice to see that Pac and Chuck had a good relationship. I wasn't the hugest fan of Pac's music, mainly because the production was too inferior for his subject matter. Plus I hated seeing someone with such a brilliant young mind get distracted by the immaturity and subsequent ignorance that eventuality took his life. In the same way Malcolm's fiery tongue and increased prominence led to his death, Pac's inability to insulate himself from bullsh!t culminated in losing his life in the most ignominious way in my opinion. That was the difference between him and other conscious brothers still with us today such as Chuck, Nas, and Cube. His behavior and choice of association ultimately betrayed his limitless potential.
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
Chuck is my top 10 MC of all time! He doesn't get mentioned because of many of the oldheads hated his message and shytted on him as an upstanding person and humble man that is for Hip Hop's and black people's best interests. I believe that there is a conspiracy to wipe him off the history books because a lot of the same oldheads that hated him back in the day, are trying to make ignorant ass shyt as "Real Hip Hop"
Its nice to see that Pac and Chuck had a good relationship. I wasn't the hugest fan of Pac's music, mainly because the production was too inferior for his subject matter. Plus I hated seeing someone with such a brilliant young mind get distracted by the immaturity and subsequent ignorance that eventuality took his life. In the same way Malcolm's fiery tongue and increased prominence led to his death, Pac's inability to insulate himself from bullsh!t culminated in losing his life in the most ignominious way in my opinion. That was the difference between him and other conscious brothers still with us today such as Chuck, Nas, and Cube. His behavior and choice of association ultimately betrayed his limitless potential.
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
Mista Chuck is #2 on my all-time top-5 list.
Nomad1
Tupac KONY and GOAT
Nas and Ice Cube were not concious and far from it. Ice Cube helped push the negative image of Blacks and he helped white men use gangsta rap as a economic machine for their own use. Nas is a product of that. Also, Pac's situation was far complicated then people think it is. Pac's beef with Big was escalated because of Diddy and Suge's beef, which was far worse.Its nice to see that Pac and Chuck had a good relationship. I wasn't the hugest fan of Pac's music, mainly because the production was too inferior for his subject matter. Plus I hated seeing someone with such a brilliant young mind get distracted by the immaturity and subsequent ignorance that eventuality took his life. In the same way Malcolm's fiery tongue and increased prominence led to his death, Pac's inability to insulate himself from bullsh!t culminated in losing his life in the most ignominious way in my opinion. That was the difference between him and other conscious brothers still with us today such as Chuck, Nas, and Cube. His behavior and choice of association ultimately betrayed his limitless potential.
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
Anything else like this?
Nomad1
Tupac KONY and GOAT
I will look around.
The Message
Lex with tv sets the minimum
my head exploded. lol i stil get chills when that shyt comes on...BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
Its nice to see that Pac and Chuck had a good relationship. I wasn't the hugest fan of Pac's music, mainly because the production was too inferior for his subject matter. Plus I hated seeing someone with such a brilliant young mind get distracted by the immaturity and subsequent ignorance that eventuality took his life. In the same way Malcolm's fiery tongue and increased prominence led to his death, Pac's inability to insulate himself from bullsh!t culminated in losing his life in the most ignominious way in my opinion. That was the difference between him and other conscious brothers still with us today such as Chuck, Nas, and Cube. His behavior and choice of association ultimately betrayed his limitless potential.
On another note, I swear Chuck doesn't get mentioned as often as should be when we talk top 10 or 15 lists. Without Chuck, it's very possible Cube may have never crafted Amerikka's Most and Death Certificate. Chuck's influence on Pac was evident even without this letter being shared. We can talk about Rakim's embodiment of being the perfectly constructed emcee, G Rap's ridiculous barplay, and a ton of other old school legends. But Chuck really was the pinnacle of social awareness in HipHop. He made it more urgent than X Clan, and forced the issue more than Brand Nubian. Honestly, I appreciated Chuck's social prowess more than KRS', and he's always mentioned ahead of Chuck.
BTW, do any of you remember what went through your head the first time you heard Welcome to the Terrordome?
It's a combination of things, one being PE as a phenomenon is something that the media would just love to forget, secondly, he wasn't really as nice stylistically as a lot of his contemporaries IMO. I wanted to hear what he had to so more than I wanted to hear him rhyme.
infamousred
All Star
i worded it wrong, sorry. what i meant to ask was if the letter that puffy had supposedly wrote 2pac while he was locked up was ever shown? i remember there was a huge 2pac fan site back in the day, and it may have been 2pac nation, but i can't remember. anyway, there was a picture(that wasn't displaying anymore), and underneath it, it said something to the effect of the letter that puffy wrote 2pac.Pac wrote puffnever heard of this. More info?
i believe this to be true because of the part in ambitionz of a ridah where he says "gettin much mail in jail...nikkas tell me to kill it, knowin when i get out they gonna feel it"
i've also read about the letter on one other site on the internet but have never been able to find the actual writing.
everyone always focuses on suge and puffy but i believe there was a much bigger thing between 2pac and puffy that we will never fully understand. if everyone remembers 2pac was always out in public speaking on puffy...but the only time puff ever said anything sideways to him was the infamous reply to hit em up where he calls 2pac an actor and says bad boys move in silence.
Love him or hate him, you have to admit, he writes like a 13 year old valley girl.
Have a fatherless generation looking up to Cher from Clueless, breh
to all the Pac fans negging me. Be mad at Orlando, not me, brehs.Just making an observation, y'all sensitive (much like Pac pre early twenties "active" lifestyle)
Nomad1
Tupac KONY and GOAT
I looked around and supposedly puff tried to visit Pac in prison but Pac wasn't ready to see him. I think Pac was dissapointed to not see Big visit him in the pen. .
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Dope letter. Chuck D is the man
