Pacquiao vs Mayweather Official Thread...May 2nd!!!

[blackestofpanthers]

No Haymon fighter will take a VADA test. That's suspicious

The ones that did have to take the VADA test were all busted. There's something wrong with that

Funny though, now that Matthysse is no longer with Haymon, he's doing VADA testing for the Provodnikov fight. I wonder why?

I wouldn't wanna take a chance fighting a puncher like Provodnikov with USADA testing either

Maybe they see the suspicious signs of vada
I don't see how a person can talk about memo but reference vada when conte has been involved with the company. That's odd to me
I mean barry bonds is still the GOAT to me and i still root for the SOG so the connections don't really matter to me

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Berto was dirty. It came back where they thought it wasn't intentional on his end, but he was still caught. Rios ADMITTED to drinking something with the banned substance in it.....and you defending it? Love, Bey, Peterson were all dirty as well

USADA ain't caught nobody that's even a contender since Erik Morales (after 100 chances it might as well had been) and were the same nikkas keeping it on the hush for Lance Armstrong, since you wanna bring up other sports

USADA, the same nikkas that didn't test Broner or DeMarco and lied saying they did. USADA, the same nikkas that threw out Peter Quillen drug tests for the Winky Wright fight and never said what happened to them

Bey N Love wasn't popped by VADA so we can stop using them names right now

I never said Berto wasn't dirty I said he was caught with small traces...most likely due to contamination as said by Gabe Montoya VADA spokesman #2

We already discussed why Broner N Demarco never started testing N that was because they took too long to turn in the Paper Work

I watched a bunch of Videos N Team Rios never admidtted to wrong doing so ima need them reciepts N then theres Why didn't the commission Pop Rios the shyt wasnt no masked super PED


I guess USADA needs to pop nikkas for energy drinks, take blood near a ring where nikkas is sparring N there's McDonalds wrappers...N have a fighter piss in a hotel drinking glass in order to be seen as "legit"

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Maybe they see the suspicious signs of vada
I don't see how a person can talk about memo but reference vada when conte has been involved with the company. That's odd to me
I mean barry bonds is still the GOAT to me and i still root for the SOG so the connections don't really matter to me

EXACTLY my fukking point nikkas wanna say VADA is so great N there's more shady shyt going on with them then USADA

Rios pissing in a Hotel drinking Glass
Rios being tested 4-5 times Manny being tested once if that N nikkas got the nerve to wonder why VADA doesn't get chosed

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Funny though, now that Matthysse is no longer with Haymon, he's doing VADA testing for the Provodnikov fight. I wonder why?

I wouldn't wanna take a chance fighting a puncher like Provodnikov with USADA testing either

Matthysse didn't want to do any testing for Swift...nikkas used that as Danny was ducking..."he fought Morales on roids so why does he need testing for Matthysse"

Matthysse didn't wanna do testing for Prov N team Prov had to pay outta there own pocket N they chose VADA cuz its cheaper

Nice try tho

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

His arms look bigger

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

His arms look bigger

Hard work dedication and Ariza shakes...

 

[Black_Jesus]

Vada is the better test... USDA isnt. PED chemist, Angel Heredia, doesn't want his fighters to use VADA because he knows there's a good chan will get caught.. Which is why Floydie would only agree to USADA.. @ChocolateGiddyUp the nikkas going out of there way to use Vada only are the ones you should be suspicious of.. Especially if they have memo in their camp

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

 

[JoeClair]

No Haymon fighter will take a VADA test. That's suspicious

The ones that did have to take the VADA test were all busted. There's something wrong with that

Funny though, now that Matthysse is no longer with Haymon, he's doing VADA testing for the Provodnikov fight. I wonder why?

I wouldn't wanna take a chance fighting a puncher like Provodnikov with USADA testing either

See...it's contradictions like that, that make me wonder. None of his fighters will take the test but some have been busted by VADA? Oh, ok.

Please stop the silly conspiracy theories. USADA has been around forever and have busted thousands of athletes. Plus, barely anyone uses USADA in boxing so of course VADA will catch more people. Are you implying that if USADA was testing those Top Rank fighters that were busted by VADA that they would cover up the tests? Silly. Any organization can be compromised and I'd be equally suspicious of an organization (VADA) who began with Victor Conte as one of their founders and then tried to cover it up later as if he never had anything to do with them.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Hard work dedication and Ariza shakes...

Hard work, dedication and medication breh. People inside the camp say that he's being really aggressive in camp. PBF is going to rise like the Phoenix brehs....

 

[patscorpio]

Why is everyone going gaga over the size of Floyd's arms? That doesn't mean anything in the big picture of things. They're not even that big

 

[Newzz]

See...it's contradictions like that, that make me wonder. None of his fighters will take the test but some have been busted by VADA? Oh, ok.

That's because yall dont follow Boxing close enough....it's not my fault


Again, Al Haymon fighters always refuse VADA testing (except Edwin Rodrigiuez, who I forgot about last night) and the ones who are FORCED to take them have all failed or flat out refused to take the fight

Please stop the silly conspiracy theories. USADA has been around forever and have busted thousands of athletes.

We talking about Boxing...not athletes in general. Besides, arent they the same ones who KNEW Lance Armstrong tested positive for steroids all the way back in 2009 and 2010, but didnt say anything until 2012?


That's the problem I have with USADA. They hold the results of failed drug tests until THEY are ready to do something about it, whereas VADA reports the results immediately.

Plus, barely anyone uses USADA in boxing so of course VADA will catch more people.

This is a bold face lie


USADA has been used in Boxing dating all the way back to at least 2002....they just dont catch any contenders, because when they do, they give you 4-5 chances to fail again (like Morales) or toss the entire submission out (like Peter Quillin's drug testing samples), or they cover it up (like Floyd's samples)

Are you implying that if USADA was testing those Top Rank fighters that were busted by VADA that they would cover up the tests? Silly.

Again, Erik Morales and Peter Quillin's case say totally different from what you are talking about. USADA LYING about testing both Broner and Demarco, only to be proven false, shows that they are liars as well

Any organization can be compromised and I'd be equally suspicious of an organization (VADA) who began with Victor Conte as one of their founders and then tried to cover it up later as if he never had anything to do with them.

Any organization CAN be compromised, but VADA hasnt shown that yet, so why would I be suspicious of them?

USADA is the only one who has been caught over and over in shady situations...not VADA.

Another thing, for the last time....VADA HAS busted a Victor Conte client

Andre Berto was caught by VADA, and he was working with Victor Conte

 

[JoeClair]

That's because yall dont follow Boxing close enough....it's not my fault


Again, Al Haymon fighters always refuse VADA testing (except Edwin Rodrigiuez, who I forgot about last night) and the ones who are FORCED to take them have all failed or flat out refused to take the fight




We talking about Boxing...not athletes in general. Besides, arent they the same ones who KNEW Lance Armstrong tested positive for steroids all the way back in 2009 and 2010, but didnt say anything until 2012?


That's the problem I have with USADA. They hold the results of failed drug tests until THEY are ready to do something about it, whereas VADA reports the results immediately.




This is a bold face lie


USADA has been used in Boxing dating all the way back to at least 2002....they just dont catch any contenders, because when they do, they give you 4-5 chances to fail again (like Morales) or toss the entire submission out (like Peter Quillin's drug testing samples), or they cover it up (like Floyd's samples)




Again, Erik Morales and Peter Quillin's case say totally different from what you are talking about. USADA LYING about testing both Broner and Demarco, only to be proven false, shows that they are liars as well




Any organization CAN be compromised, but VADA hasnt shown that yet, so why would I be suspicious of them?

USADA is the only one who has been caught over and over in shady situations...not VADA.

Another thing, for the last time....VADA HAS busted a Victor Conte client

Andre Berto was caught by VADA, and he was working with Victor Conte

I'm not sure where to begin but...here goes.

1. USADA has not been in boxing since 2002. False.

2. Can't say Haymon fighters don't take VADA and then mention Haymon fighters who did and failed, and then remember a Haymon fighter who did and past. Maybe that makes sense to you but where I'm from, it doesn't.

Finally, I'm glad we agree any org can be compromised. Especially one enlisting Victor Conte the sleazebag to help start them, regardless of whether they caught Berto or not.

 

[Newzz]

I'm not sure where to begin but...here goes.

1. USADA has not been in boxing since 2002. False.

U.S. Boxer Pastorello Receives Suspension From USADA For Positive Drug Test

Jan. 22, 2002
The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) announced Tuesday the decision by a three-member panel of the American Arbitration Association (AAA)/North American Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) arbitrators finding Joseph Pastorello of Colorado Springs, Colo., an athlete in the sport of boxing, committed a doping violation involving the prohibited substance 19-norandrosterone.
http://www.usada.org/u-s-boxer-pastorello-receives-suspension-from-usada-for-positive-drug-test/

2. Can't say Haymon fighters don't take VADA and then mention Haymon fighters who did and failed, and then remember a Haymon fighter who did and past. Maybe that makes sense to you but where I'm from, it doesn't.

Once again, Al Haymon fighters do NOT use VADA outside of Edwin Rodriguez (1 out of 170+ Boxers Al Haymon has). The ones who were caught were FORCED to take the VADA tests, because they were the B-Side...meaning they had no other option but to either refuse to take the fight if they didnt want to take the test (like Adrien Broner told Paulie Malignaggi), or roll the dice and see what happened. Peterson, Bey, Love, Berto all rolled the dice and all lost.

It's simple english. Easy to grasp and understand.

Finally, I'm glad we agree any org can be compromised. Especially one enlisting Victor Conte the sleazebag to help start them, regardless of whether they caught Berto or not.

Yall: "Bu-bu-but, VADA was started with input of Victor Conte, they must be sneaky"

Me: But VADA busted one of Victor Conte's clients for steroids and reported him asap They've done NOTHING to raise suspicion or red flags, so what's the problem?



Yall: "Bu-bu-but, it doesnt matter if they caught Berto...they still used Conte to help start them"

Me: But Conte has 0 involvement with VADA currently and if that's the case, and keeping in line with this thread, I would assume you are suspicious of Floyd working with a convicted steroids dealer as well, who's on record saying he can beat ANY drug test, correct?