Pacquiao could lose to Algieri, warns Hall of Fame referee

[The Hovering Heed]

Despite Chris Algier's underdog status, Hall of Fame referee Joe Cortez thinks that world light welterweight champion could pull off an upset when he faces Manny Pacquiao on November 23 in Macau.

Contrary to what the majority believe, Cortez thinks that Algieri will be a very difficult opponent for Pacquiao.

"I think it will be a very difficult fight for Pacquiao. I think Pacquiao may not get through this kid (Algieri)," Cortez told ontheropesboxing.com. "This kid is like 5’10 and he has great boxing skills, he has a long jab. He’s gonna keep Pacquiao at a distance, Pacquiao is gonna try to come in and put him away. Pacquiao is gonna have his hands full."

Cortez also added that Algieri's style and renowned fitness will be key to victory.

"Chris Algieri is not the hardest puncher in the world but he proved when he fought Provodnikov what kind of a style he has," told Cortez.

"He’s very difficult to hit and stays so very active with a lot of combinations and if he keeps Pacquiao at a distance, he’s gonna box him all night long and he’s gonna win a decision." — JST, GMA News

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...ld-lose-to-algieri-warns-hall-of-fame-referee
First time hearing a Ref choose up .

I inserted the picture

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/stor...ld-lose-to-algieri-warns-hall-of-fame-referee
First time hearing a Ref choose up .

I inserted the picture

Cortez is retired, and I think he does some work with ESPN, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Hes right... but of course Pac isn't gonna get the props/credit for fighting and beating this guy..

 

[Newzz]

Hes right... but of course Pac isn't gonna get the props/credit for fighting and beating this guy..

He doesnt deserve any props for beating Chris Algieri when Pacquiao's supposed to be an elite fighter.


Elite fighters walk through the "Chris Algieiri's" of the world.

 

[Black_Jesus]

He doesnt deserve any props for beating Chris Algieri when Pacquiao's supposed to be an elite fighter.


Elite fighters walk through the "Chris Algieiri's" of the world.

Have you seen an elite fighter walk through Algieri?? Nope.. What you're saying is nothing but conjecture. . Dont confuse that with facts.. If Pac doesn't easily run through Algieri, its just further proof that your statement is false.. Algeiri beat the guy you claimed Pac needs to beat to get props from you

 

[Newzz]

Have you seen an elite fighter walk through Algieri?? Nope..

Chris Algieri has never faced an elite fighter.

What you're saying is nothing but conjecture. . Dont confuse that with facts..

Please explain how it's conjecture....Algieri's best opponent he's faced is Ruslan Provodnikov who's biggest win himself is only over Mike Alvarado.

If Pac doesn't easily run through Algieri, its just further proof that your statement is false..

No it means that Pacquiao isnt elite anymore.


No way should Pacquiao not win this fight convincingly and with ease....possibly via KO.


Algieri should not even be able to hurt him, so what would Manny hold back the aggression for?

Algeiri beat the guy you claimed Pac needs to beat to get props from you

When have I EVER heaped that type of praise on Ruslan Provodnikov?


I dont even care for him and believe he was over hyped from the get go. Ima need to see the receipts


I always said, and still say, that Pacquiao hiding from punchers that can KO him is obvious (just like other fighters, but Pac doesnt get called out for it except by me) and that he should fight a fighter like Provodnikov so it proves that he is still the same Manny that you proclaim he is....because Provodnikov was calling him out, both were signed to TR, they had the same trainer and trained in the same gym, so the fight should've been easy to make. PLUS, Provodnikov was a Champion, which is always your excuse for Manny fighting Algieri


Provodnikov, Lucas Matthysse, Luis Carlos Abregu would all be "truth serum" for Pacquiao in the ring, because they coming forwards and looking to only bang out. Pacquiao aint about that life no more, which is why Bob Arum's looking at Pacquiao fighting Jessie Vargas next


When he fights Vargas next, his last 3 opponents (Bradley, Algieri, and Vargas) would have had a combined 88 wins with only 29 of those wins coming via KO....a 33% KO ratio

 

[Black_Jesus]

Chris Algieri has never faced an elite fighter.




Please explain how it's conjecture....Algieri's best opponent he's faced is Ruslan Provodnikov who's biggest win himself is only over Mike Alvarado.




No it means that Pacquiao isnt elite anymore.


No way should Pacquiao not win this fight convincingly and with ease....possibly via KO.


Algieri should not even be able to hurt him, so what would Manny hold back the aggression for?





When have I EVER heaped that type of praise on Ruslan Provodnikov?


I dont even care for him and believe he was over hyped from the get go. Ima need to see the receipts


I always said, and still say, that Pacquiao hiding from punchers that can KO him is obvious (just like other fighters, but Pac doesnt get called out for it except by me) and that he should fight a fighter like Provodnikov so it proves that he is still the same Manny that you proclaim he is....because Provodnikov was calling him out, both were signed to TR, they had the same trainer and trained in the same gym, so the fight should've been easy to make. PLUS, Provodnikov was a Champion, which is always your excuse for Manny fighting Algieri


Provodnikov, Lucas Matthysse, Luis Carlos Abregu would all be "truth serum" for Pacquiao in the ring, because they coming forwards and looking to only bang out. Pacquiao aint about that life no more, which is why Bob Arum's looking at Pacquiao fighting Jessie Vargas next


When he fights Vargas next, his last 3 opponents (Bradley, Algieri, and Vargas) would have had a combined 88 wins with only 29 of those wins coming via KO....a 33% KO ratio

Pac is hiding from punchers, yet you see clearly they offered Maidana the fight and Maidana turned it down..

You said before, Pac needed to beat Prov to prove he still is elite?? Okay so why does the rules change when Algieri beats Prov??

Manny beats Prov = Manny is still elite

Algieri beats Prov = Now Prov aint shyt, you were never impressed.. Prov is a hypejob..
some logic you have there breh
you're a walking contradicion right now..

Im glad your passive aggressive hate and disdain for Pac is finally starting to reveal itself though . gotta get all you fighter of the decade haters out in the open

 

[Newzz]

Pac is hiding from punchers, yet you see clearly they offered Maidana the fight and Maidana turned it down..

Did you NOT dap this post by @Jello Biafra agreeing that Haymon wont let his fighters fight TR fighters anyways

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/10773757/

I am quite sure that Manny and Arum have made offers to all sorts of fighters over the last couple years (because as big a scumbag as Arum may be he is all about getting paid above anything else) but it is just a waste of time because Al Haymon will never allow his fighters to take the fight.

So, it was a pointless "offer" by Arum if he knew the fight could not and would not be made....and you dapped the post saying that you agreed

You said before, Pac needed to beat Prov to prove he still is elite??

I've never said that....you're taking my words and trying to twist em


Again, Pacquiao needs to beat a fighter like Provodnikov, Matthysse, and Abregu to prove that he's still a "killer" in the ring....not to prove that he's elite. I've never said Manny wasnt elite, he's an A fighter


I believe since JMM left him for dead, he's hesitant to engage in any fire fights like he was previously and you do not. The only way it could be proven otherwise is if he fought someone who can punch and he doesnt fight all "Paquiao vs Rios" like

Okay so why does the rules change when Algieri beats Prov??

?

Manny beats Prov = Manny is still elite

No, Manny fights AGGRESSIVE against Provodnikov like the Pacquiao pre- and he's still the same. Manny "runs" like he did against Rios, he's still shook after JMM. My narrative has not changed and will not

Algieri beats Prov = Now Prov aint shyt, you were never impressed.. Prov is a hypejob..

Do you want me to pull MY posts on Provodnikov from prior to the Algieri fight?


One of us is lying, and it aint me


Feb 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7512934/

Only person I've said that is pure "hype" is Ruslan Provodnikov and that Lucas Matthysse has to still show me he can beat a top tier opponent because I'm not convinced on him yet

April 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8217527/

Prov didnt beat anyone elite for the belt....Mike Alvarado?

Yall setting yourselves up for the ultimate L

Feb 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7513439/

The reason Provodnikov had success against Timothy Bradley is because Timothy Bradley went into the fight looking to make an exciting fight. He said so himself He fought the wrong fight, on purpose. and ALMOST lost his 0 and belt because of it. If Bradley would've fought him the way he fought JMM, it would've been a much easier fight. Also if Provonikov wasnt such a hype job, he would've finished off a Timothy Bradley who was fighting concussed ever since the 1st round instead of going 12 rounds with a fighter who was out on his feet for at least 85% of the fight

Shall I continue?

Prov, even though he got that work from Pacquiao back in the days in sparring, is still the same hype job. Pacquiao ISNT the same fighter that was giving him that work though...he's scared to engage now, so I think a fight with Provodnikov would prove whether Pacquiao still has that "fire" to go in for the kill, or if the JMM KO end that era for Pacquiao. Only way to know is by Pacquiao getting in the ring with someone who's known as a huge puncher.

some logic you have there breh
you're a walking contradicion right now..

You havent backed up 1 claim in this thread....or ever when it comes to me. Im not your typical @Skip b my nikka, you cant side step @Newzz that easy

Im glad your passive aggressive hate and disdain for Pac is finally starting to reveal itself though . gotta get all you fighter of the decade haters out in the open

I dont care about Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr, so I can tell the truth about em just as easily as big em up.


Your boy is scared of contact and didnt even wanna engage Timothy Bradley[/quote]

 

[Black_Jesus]

Did you NOT dap this post by @Jello Biafra agreeing that Haymon wont let his fighters fight TR fighters anyways

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/10773757/



So, it was a pointless "offer" by Arum if he knew the fight could not and would not be made....and you dapped the post saying that you agreed

That aint what the breh Jello said though.. you're adding your words to his post.. He said nothing about Arum "knowing" or "knew" the fights wouldn't be made if offered.. My point is Pac and his team made the initiative to fight a fighter who you consider to be a threat to Pacquiao because he has power. Maidana turned it down and got his asswhooped AGAIN.. and also, its no Pac or TR fault if ALHaymon and his fighters are turning down fights... He rather his fighters fight Salka, Diaz, Algieri leftovers instead anyway

I've never said that....you're taking my words and trying to twist em


Again, Pacquiao needs to beat a fighter like Provodnikov, Matthysse, and Abregu to prove that he's still a "killer" in the ring....not to prove that he's elite. I've never said Manny wasnt elite, he's an A fighter

Im not twisting your words.. You saying Pac isn't a killer in the ring. And he's "scared" to fight Abregu, scared to fight Lucas Mattyssee?? Zab leftovers?? NeverNevermind the fact they offered Maidana bum ass a fight... in the same breath you saying "he's elite.?? He's an A fighter"? you ing up... How is Pac an elite fighter but "scared" to fight C and B fighters just because they have punching power?? You on a whole notha level of BS right now breh

I believe since JMM left him for dead, he's hesitant to engage in any fire fights like he was previously and you do not. The only way it could be proven otherwise is if he fought someone who can punch and he doesnt fight all "Paquiao vs Rios" like

He beat the shyt out of Rios, but was being careful. I never denied that.. Dont mean he's scared to take a hit just because he doesn't want to get hit coming off a ko loss...
and he engaged plenty of times with Bradley..you're revising history right now making it seem like now Pac be on some Lara shyt when thats far from the case

No, Manny fights AGGRESSIVE against Provodnikov like the Pacquiao pre- and he's still the same. Manny "runs" like he did against Rios, he's still shook after JMM. My narrative has not changed and will not

your narrative is bullshyt.. Pac didn't run from rios.. He squared up boxes the nikka, and avoided getting hit by being evasive, shutting him out 12-0. Dont make me neg you

Do you want me to pull MY posts on Provodnikov from prior to the Algieri fight?


One of us is lying, and it aint me


Feb 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7512934/



April 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8217527/




Feb 27th, 2014: http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7513439/

I never said you didn't say this.. What i'm saying is you sound crazy as fuk sitting here telling me Pac needs to beats Prov to prove he's the same Pac, ...Algeiri beat Prov but you wont give him props for the victory.. its bullshyt plain and simple.. Pac dont get props for a win anymore unless he beats a nikka the way YOU want him to beat him regardless if its a shutout or not

Shall I continue?

no need


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[Master Teacher]

stop reading when he said chris algeri is hard to hit

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

stop reading when he said chris algeri is hard to hit

he obviously has heart but this dude is a tomato can who poses almost zero threat to sleepy...who knew beating 19 unkown cab drivers and substitute teachers gets you a shot at the so called #2 fighter in the world

 

[Master Teacher]

he obviously has heart but this dude is a tomato can who poses almost zero threat to sleepy...who knew beating 19 unkown cab drivers and substitute teachers gets you a shot at the so called #2 fighter in the world

I dunno, first I thought all this algeri talk was just to validate the match being on ppv or what not

but I'm thinking either arum knows manny is done, or they will fix the decision to milk out another fight

 

[Black_Jesus]

he obviously has heart but this dude is a tomato can who poses almost zero threat to sleepy...who knew beating 19 unkown cab drivers and substitute teachers gets you a shot at the so called #2 fighter in the world

Provodnikov and Emanuel Taylor are cab drivers??...

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

Provodnikov and Emanuel Taylor are cab drivers??...

so we setting the bar for #2 p4p fighters at provo algieri rios taylor at 140-147 now interesting Algieri 5 years removed from fighting out of PAL's and never fought outside of NY lets think about that and now they got him in china on ppv selling him as the 2014 rocky
top rank is the goat feeding these sacrificial lamb ppv's for sleepy's stans who still buy it

 

[Black_Jesus]

so we setting the bar for #2 p4p fighters at provo algieri rios taylor at 140-147 now interesting Algieri 5 years removed from fighting out of PAL's and never fought outside of NY lets think about that and now they got him in china on ppv selling him as the 2014 rocky
top rank is the goat feeding these sacrificial lamb ppv's for sleepy's stans who still buy it

Simple question. .. Prov and Taylor Janitors or not??