Out of Naomi and Sasha Banks, who y'all think had a better wrestling career outside of WWE?

Who y'all got?

  • Naomi Impact/TNA run

    Votes: 9 37.5%
  • Sasha Banks AEW run

    Votes: 15 62.5%

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Novembruh

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wake me up when Mercedes wins the AEW Women's title and not the Token Black Strap :yeshrug:
absolutely no reason Mariah May should be higher on the title placement than the woman formerly known as Sasha Banks outside of shytty booking and :mjpls: sentiments.

Can't even do the 'lolTNA' trick either - TNA and AEW running the same sized buildings at this point.
 

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wake me up when Mercedes wins the AEW Women's title and not the Token Black Strap :yeshrug:
absolutely no reason Mariah May should be higher on the title placement than the woman formerly known as Sasha Banks outside of shytty booking and :mjpls: sentiments.

Can't even do the 'lolTNA' trick either - TNA and AEW running the same sized buildings at this point.

Mone will get her time with the main belt. May is losing to Toni next month and the only reason she won was for the storyline and to build Toni’s character more. The company does something right and there’s still complaining. :dead:

And I’ve been on record many times saying May ain’t it, so send her back to Japan with her modern diva style of wrasslin. :russell:
 

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Mone will get her time with the main belt. May is losing to Toni next month and the only reason she won was for the storyline and to build Toni’s character more. The company does something right and there’s still complaining. :dead:

And I’ve been on record many times saying May ain’t it, so send her back to Japan with her modern diva style of wrasslin. :russell:
I don't think Mercedes wins that main title for all of 2025.
Mercedes is running the Jade booking to a T. literally. Don't lose. shyt on the other women. Have flunkies who you immediately disassociate with in a way that buries them. Eventually will lose to a big ol white woman who will go nowhere herself despite the win supposedly boosting her career.

Stat beat Jade's undefeated streak. And where is she now? Still. Chasing. The. TBS. Title.

kudos to y'all for the faith you have in a company that has done absolutely nothing to earn it :yeshrug:

But Mercedes is just beige Ospreay. And beige Okada. All brought in for big money, given mid-tier level belts and are treading water in the same deadend storylines they started with the company in. Will still dealing with Fletcher and Callis. Okada still phoning in matches and being a meme. And Mercedes still one of the best women's workers on the planet, but has zero character direction and is just out here having matches just to have them with midcard women over a belt that has gotten absolutely zero human beings over :hubie:no slight on her. Tony can't book women's wrestling. At all. The best woman they have got over doing everything BUT wrestling matches. Because the man cannot book for a gender he does not understand.

You can't get a woman over if you can't get a woman.
 

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I don't think Mercedes wins that main title for all of 2025.
Mercedes is running the Jade booking to a T. literally. Don't lose. shyt on the other women. Have flunkies who you immediately disassociate with in a way that buries them. Eventually will lose to a big ol white woman who will go nowhere herself despite the win supposedly boosting her career.

Stat beat Jade's undefeated streak. And where is she now? Still. Chasing. The. TBS. Title.

kudos to y'all for the faith you have in a company that has done absolutely nothing to earn it :yeshrug:

But Mercedes is just beige Ospreay. And beige Okada. All brought in for big money, given mid-tier level belts and are treading water in the same deadend storylines they started with the company in. Will still dealing with Fletcher. Okada still phoning in matches and being a meme. And Mercedes still one of the best women's workers on the planet, but has zero character direction and is just out here having matches just to have them with midcard women over a belt that has gotten absolutely zero human beings over :hubie:no slight on her. Tony can't book women's wrestling. At all. The best woman they have got over doing everything BUT wrestling matches. Because the man cannot book for a gender he does not understand.

You can't get a woman over if you can't get a woman.

I honestly don’t get pro wrestling fans. Mone just had 4 belts on a talk show seen nationwide; giving other promotions shine by holding them. She’s put out quality matches that SI listed 2-3 of them as top 10 in 2024.

Dudes want everything right now instead of letting opportunities come later on. If they give Mone the main belt now dudes would complain later on when she’s TBS champion; talking about how she went from the main strap to a secondary belt.

They’re treating her like a big deal, but somehow she has to lose matches? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of being treated like a star? :what:
 

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OT, but since it was brought up: If we’re keeping it 100, Willow and Stat should be next in line for the main title since they’ve put in time with the company.
 

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I honestly don’t get pro wrestling fans. Mone just had 4 belts on a talk show seen nationwide; giving other promotions shine by holding them. She’s put out quality matches that SI listed 2-3 of them as top 10 in 2024.

Dudes want everything right now instead of letting opportunities come later on. If they give Mone the main belt now dudes would complain later on when she’s TBS champion; talking about how she went from the main strap to a secondary belt.

They’re treating her like a big deal, but somehow she has to lose matches? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose of being treated like a star? :what:
see. The issue is you're attempting to extrapolate 'dudes' onto me, and the points I made while were... unaddressed by this reply.

Who gives a fukk if she's holding other company belts? That's AEW's problem - they worried about everybody having a bunch of belts for companies no one gives a fukk about and thinking being draped in titles gets someone over. There are fittyleven belts on AEW. And what single person is more over for having it than they were without it right now? Name ONE. We got plenty of people who are less over for having held a title though. Definitely that.

AEW loves then 'you can't just come in and immediately win things! you need to establish!!' point.

who has ever established and then grown after coming in later? Whom? The top of the card in the men's division is the same top of the card since the company inception. The top of the women's card is... still just a bunch of blonde women of varying degrees of quality.
And every big acquisition they've made that came in and immediately started to lose... stayed in the same position they came in at. All of them. Ricochet is no higher up the card than he was the day he came in.

People who walk in the door winning get over in AEW. Everyone else gets paid and stays where they at. People may have eye-rolled about Mercedes immediately winning the top belt on coming in. But... that'd be useful heel heat for her.

Again: wake me up when she isn't the latest black woman whose ceiling is the TBS title.
 

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see. The issue is you're attempting to extrapolate 'dudes' onto me, and the points I made while were... unaddressed by this reply.

AEW loves then 'you can't just come in and immediately win things! you need to establish!!' point.

who has ever established and then grown after coming in later? Whom? The top of the card in the men's division is the same top of the card since the company inception. The top of the women's card is... still just a bunch of blonde women of varying degrees of quality.
And every big acquisition they've made that came in and immediately started to lose... stayed in the same position they came in at. All of them. Ricochet is no higher up the card than he was the day he came in.

People who walk in the door winning get over in AEW. Everyone else gets paid and stays where they at. People may have eye-rolled about Mercedes immediately winning the top belt on coming in. But... that'd be useful heel heat for her.

Again: wake me up when she isn't the latest black woman whose ceiling is the TBS title.
Somehow you decided to turn this into an AEW topic instead of Mone/Naomi. I’m not gonna derail it by entertaining this discussion or replying to an a$$hole (not you) who wants to make this into more bullshyt. :shaq2:
 

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Yall don’t say that about Jade though. Let’s wait to have that conversation until she’s done with the company too. :mjgrin:
 

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in this thread alone I read:

-she has to lose matches, but somehow has to be treated like a star in defeat. :skip:

-Then I read winning titles and matches is “subpar booking.” :skip:

Pro wrestling fans are truly fickle. :dead:
 

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in this thread alone I read:

-she has to lose matches, but somehow has to be treated like a star in defeat. :skip:

-Then I read winning titles and matches is “subpar booking.” :skip:

Pro wrestling fans are truly fickle. :dead:
I can only imagine if she came in and won the title within a month. Brehs would be screaming in protest :russ:
 

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Yall don’t say that about Jade though. Let’s wait to have that conversation until she’s done with the company too. :mjgrin:
There’s no comparison. Mone is an established talent who has earned her spot by proving it in the ring and as a character, and deserving of accolades she’s earned. Jade is still fresh.

But if you wanna go that way, Jade’s first year in AEW has been better than her first year in WWE.
 
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