Only a matter of time before a legit 3rd party emerges.

[Uachet]

The way our political system is setup, a third party will probably never be able to gain enough of a following to give us a viable third option. As another person mentioned above, both R&D parties work hard to hinder the rise of another viable party.

Even if one does rise, it normally occurs at the expense of one of the ones that already exist. Can't have a good cop bad cop dynamic when there are more than 2 parties involved. So a parliamentary system with multiple parties requiring them to build real coalitions will not rise up in the US unless our present political system is removed first.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

I disagree.

U got independent voters who can be swayed.

Progressive voters are tired of voting blue because they have no choice other than not voting.

If progressives started their own party, it would all but guarantee democrats would lose a lot as they would lose votes.


This would force centrist democrats to bend to the will of that voter base. In order for them to be viable they would have to reabsorb those voters.

Not disrespect but you are looking at it from an ideological and not a practical point-of-view. Independent voters is like getting a participation trophy in politics. When its time to vote an independent voter has to register as a democrat or republican when voting in a presidential election. Also third party candidates may appear on a ballot in some areas and not others. I was surprised to learn that during the last election. I can go on further but the only chance third candidate has a shot if is the current system changes and I don't see that happening.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Bernie or Bust 2024

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Bernie or Bust 2024

Bernie isn’t running.

More importantly, he specifically said he wasn’t running if Biden was going to run.

Biden is running. And he’s already began the process of stacking the deck in his favor. The Democratic leadership doesn’t want him to run, but there are no viable options at this point.

They had to settle for Biden the last election cycle.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Bernie isn’t running.

More importantly, he specifically said he wasn’t running if Biden was going to run.

Biden is running. And he’s already began the process of stacking the deck in his favor. The Democratic leadership doesn’t want him to run, but there are no viable options at this point.

They had to settle for Biden the last election cycle.

So we write in Bernie and he wins.

Win/win

 

[Pressure]

Bernie isn’t running.

More importantly, he specifically said he wasn’t running if Biden was going to run.

Biden is running. And he’s already began the process of stacking the deck in his favor. The Democratic leadership doesn’t want him to run, but there are no viable options at this point.

They had to settle for Biden the last election cycle.

Settle?

 

[Amo Husserl]

A consensus between similar minded, disenchanted, democrats and republicans seems most likely.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

A consensus between similar minded, disenchanted, democrats and republicans seems most likely.

Like the Germans did

 

[Amo Husserl]

Like the Germans did

They might realize the current extremes aren't viable for the nation long-term and coalesce around some form of national identity, strong domestic economic with strong international pull and heavy emphasis on environmental policy. Those three points seem most likely for the United States to maintain its position. Slow down the surveillance state while emphasizing technological advancement and place a greater working relationship between state rights and federal oversight. Whatever happens regarding the Jan. 6 episode may be the catalyst. It may still be white-minded in principle but more open to diversity on a selective basis, basically going back to the ideas of the Great Society and New Deal, using what worked and establishing a hardline against those who don't agree. Not necessary neoconservative or neoliberal, but a consensus on the overlap. I think it'll still be capitalist in nature, but recognize the importance of domestic economic policy and trim the necessary fat.

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Note how OP's main concern is dissolving the Democratic party but not the Republican one.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

A consensus between similar minded, disenchanted, democrats and republicans seems most likely.

they dont have the courage to splinter

theyre more likely to continue to do what they are currently doing and loosely align with each other in voting patterns, both as ordinary citizens and elected officials

 

[Amo Husserl]

they dont have the courage to splinter

theyre more likely to continue to do what they are currently doing and loosely align with each other in voting patterns, both as ordinary citizens and elected officials

Currently, I was speaking to the events of a generation or so down the line. These current relationships aren't sustainable and disgruntled groups on both sides may reach a consensus. These may most likely be younger politicians, Josh Hawley's generation down comes to mind. Newsom may remain a staunch democrat but I see it as advantageous for the disgruntled parties to strike out on their own having an understanding of corporate influence.

 

[88m3]

Note how OP's main concern is dissolving the Democratic party but not the Republican one.

That is kind of weird now that you mention it.

Also aren't the Republicans the party that have been working hand and fist to destroy our democracy and make the majority second class citizens?

 

[High Art]

Would it not be wiser to form secret coalitions within each party that pushes for and is bound by certain policies rather than being out in the open?

 

[Raphaello]

Once that happens republicans will further accelerate the descent of this country.