ONE HAS TO GO: JOHN CENA OR HULK HOGAN

[Dreamzeedream]

Hes practically one foot out the door now and its not put a dent in the overall product. The fans dont even give him that vet respect for his tenure. You would also think absence would make the heart grow fonder but they are like f that

Dont equate bron with Cena, bron has brought so many juicy stories and classic games/feats through the years to the NBA 15 years deep. Cena is just a handpicked merch mover that only has 1 forte and that is speaking on the mic. In all his years in the company can you name 1 classic match hes had?

Hes practically one foot out the door now and its not put a dent in the overall product.

Answer: Yes it has



The fans dont even give him that vet respect for his tenure.


Answer: you must dint watch the end of no mercy 2017



Cena is just a handpicked merch mover that only has 1 forte and that is speaking on the mic



Answer: JOHN CENA is the great of this generation. Yes He's not the best wrestler. But he's not the worse either
Hell. His matches are all ways enjoyable.



In all his years in the company can you name 1 classic match hes had?[/QUOTE]


Answer: you must never seen those ink matches?



so many juicy stories and classic games/feats through the years to the NBA 15 years deep.



Answer: it'
The true. Cena is the LeBron James of wrestling

 

[thaKEAF]

Hoegan

Did Cena ever sport weave?

 

[The Prince of All Saiyans]

Hoegan

Did Cena ever sport weave?

it's still early, guy

 

[Cartier Murphy]

and destroyed macho Mans marriage

Wait what can you expand on this one breh?

 

[8WON6]

Hoegan

Did Cena ever sport weave?

I'll say Hoe Kogan can go. Cena at least tried to wrestle sometimes and give us a few actual matches and not just spectacles.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

No nwo?

 

[Amor fati]

Objectively Hogan.

 

[Rell84shots]

Cena, No Hogan = No nWo. I don't give a fukk about Hogan outside of his Hollwood era, but without him key things don't happen in wrestling.

 

[jackswstd]

Without Hogan wrestling would be nothing like it is now. As much as people would say otherwise, it wouldn't have worked without him. All the stars aligned perfectly.

 

[thenatural]

I know. But I want it to be based off career wise and their impact. Gotta leave HOGAN being Racist out of this

But seriously, no will do that, especially when Cena was pandering like this....

Also, I'll go with Cena because he had to deal with the smart marks since the beginning, and he was able to stay relevant. It took a Hogan heel turn to bring him back to that point. That dude was drowning in obscurity.

 

[Osmosis]

Cena is better at all facets of pro wrestling

 

[Roman Brady]

Hes practically one foot out the door now and its not put a dent in the overall product.

Answer: Yes it has

how has it put a dent in the overall product? We've already established hes not a great wrestler and in all his years who has he "made". So now instead of cena they have roman only hes worse on the mic but the hierarchy in booking still persists, the beat goes on.

Again I ask if cena is so missed how come when he makes a surprise return he doesnt get 'respect' cheers because his absence has made their hearts grow fonder?

The fans dont even give him that vet respect for his tenure.


Answer: you must dint watch the end of no mercy 2017

is that that one vs AJ where they teased if he lost he might leave for good or something? you just strengthened my point. After the match he stayed in the ring doin the whole crest fallen schtick and the fans did not bite at all. That is basically the hogan of this era and he got struggle claps.

12years of carrying the company, the whole arena should have been on their feet clapping saying "thank u cena" if he was that dude. Hes clearly not

Cena is just a handpicked merch mover that only has 1 forte and that is speaking on the mic



Answer: JOHN CENA is the great of this generation.

the great of this generation? What does that even mean? They had to book him like superman and hold all the others back for him to thrive. Yeah hes one of the great.....talkers and merch movers but hes also the only guy the last 30 years that had the rock and didnt transcend the business or crossover into mainstream too

In all his years in the company can you name 1 classic match hes had?

Answer: you must never seen those ink matches?

what the hell is an ink match?

so many juicy stories and classic games/feats through the years to the NBA 15 years deep.



Answer: it'
The true. Cena is the LeBron James of wrestling

I wouldnt say hes the lebron as that would mean there were years he was out and out the best which we know is not true. Hes not the attraction that will immediately put butts in seats like james does lol even opposing teams fans cheer him and gasp at his dunks.

You could say hes the taylor swift of wrestling, cuz since kanye coporate america has made sure she succeeds but as a talent shes not the best but accolades and the media would have u thinking different

 

[Slystallion]

Everybody is so fake in this thread pre tape era Hogan....this thread would be the exact opposite just based off wrestling accomplishments

And Cena is a great person but impact wise his reign was probably one of the weakest for a ring master and he is the face of the PG era

If Bret Hart had Cena build cokeboy never lets WCW take him and probably gives him just as long a run as Cena

 

[Art Barr]

I am the person who publically first saw and thought John cena was and could be the higher quality new Gen replacement for hulk Hogan since he was on reality tv. So, I think and knew him to be an actual higher quality everything potentially to Hogan and he actually is.


fukk Hogan, he was a fukk'n bum who was racist and rode Mr t's stark contrastig clubba Lange character. To empower white people in a ring sports medium just because rocky's main antagonist was always black. When real talk, if not for the appearance as thunderlips. We would never have gotten wrasslin. Yet I would have rather discovered wrasslin by flipping the channel and discovering magnum Ta instead to be completely honest. Hogan was a low quality waste of money scourge.
That only became apparent to me because I had to pay for mania IIi.
Where the end main event result is the moment I learned to respect and research any consumer product that required money.
When, at that point in time.
The word phoney never existed to me but I learned what that term was and Hogan would became the flagship for what phoney was in my lifetime.

Eternally fukk hulk Hogan.

John cena,...word life.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Cena, No Hogan = No nWo. I don't give a fukk about Hogan outside of his Hollwood era, but without him key things don't happen in wrestling.

So,....

The reason why those things did not last is because Hogan was low quality as fukk.

To the point the only reason people still tune into to wrasslin is as a pity draw. As people feel responsible for blowing wrasslin up and then just abandoning it all together just not to see it truly die. When wrasslin could have and should have died or never been popular. As real talk, the draw from wrasslin aa far as a boom came from the fact white people felt left out and catapulted Hogan just because boxing in real life never had white champions since like max and lamotta. So at the end of the day, Hogan is a draw just out of sheer racist based jealousy and imo, will never draw largely in a boom capacity ever again. Just because the largest flagship proved to be racist at wrestlemania 17. Of which goes against the fact wrasslin also needed and begged to have the legitimacy drawing appearance of Mr t as a requirement to actually draw. Yet when the business had its chance to actually crown a black ringsports star who was a real second Gen phenom and place said star in the history of the business as a legit large draw. The business showed it was racist and the larger drawing boom customer base was so disgusted by the apparent racist decision. The business will never recover and have another boom.
Then when the second boom is over. Totally negating the first boom,...
The first person who was the recipient of the first superstar boom because of racism. Actually shows he is racist and just used Mr t's draw for his own good. When the business and his superstar is and was given its legs to draw EXACTLY FROM A BLACK MAN IN MR. T.

it is the biggest slap in the face of any large drawing entertainment business.
since, the film industry trying to ostracize blaxploitation and steal the template for the action film.




Art Barr