On this flat earth.."Mentally been many places, but im Brooklyns own" 19-20 Brooklyn Nets thread

[No Homo]

Not even surprised at this L

 

[TR7]

Team has really gone on a run once team killer Kyrie left like the experts said we would

Honestly if we lost 15 straight I'd be like "Well the record without Kyrie narrative is over at least "

 

[NYC Rebel]

Team has really gone on a run once team killer Kyrie left like the experts said we would

Honestly if we lost 15 straight I'd be like "Well the record without Kyrie narrative is over at least "

@Raquinotj is a lying fukkboi like the rest of the fake news Celtics fans

 

[TR7]

@Raquinotj is a lying fukkboi like the rest of the fake news Celtics fans

I've had him on ignore for like 2 months now, does he still come in here after wins without Kyrie

 

[AJtheOne]

We lost way too many close games this year. It's frustrating

 

[NYC Rebel]

I've had him on ignore for like 2 months now, does he still come in here after wins without Kyrie

Just as recent as this week, @Raquinotj lied and said Caris Levert has been playing like an All Star since Kyrie got hurt not knowing that CAris was coming off the bench playing 20 minutes a game prior to that.

 

[Crack Daniels]

We lost way too many close games this year. It's frustrating

It’s a damn good thing we have two of the best closers, and offensive talents in general, coming back next season. And now I’ll begin praying to every God there is for health

 

[TR7]

Just as recent as this week, @Raquinotj lied and said Caris Levert has been playing like an All Star since Kyrie got hurt not knowing that CAris was coming off the bench playing 20 minutes a game prior to that.

Probably right after his big game in Toronto I'd guess. His last 10 games (mostly all starts) he's 19/5/4 which is not All Star level, especially with 40% from the field

Caris has picked up his play, but that came with a lot more minutes (and a hell of a lot more shots). And its then affected Spence since they both start and do best with the ball in their hands. Kenny's trying to stagger their minutes more but you see the issues in crunch time when they both need the ball, and don't offer much without it

Its an issue that has to be worked out, Kyrie or not. Caris needs to learn how to be consistently efficient without getting 35 minutes and 20-25 shots a night. Spencer does this a bit better, except for crunch time when he doesn't like giving up the ball.

 

[drifter]

Looks like a couple teams called about Spence at the deadline. Orlando was one offering Gordon, Detroit was another probably offering Drummond. I'm esp good on Drummond with that contract. More and more though it seems like a big move is gonna happen, Marks got asked about it and said we'll see.

What do you yall want to see happen? Say Beal demands a trade, since that's the scenario everyone's running with, you down with trading Caris or Spence + JA and picks? Not sure if it's the move we need but Beal to Brooklyn is popping up a lot.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Probably right after his big game in Toronto I'd guess. His last 10 games (mostly all starts) he's 19/5/4 which is not All Star level, especially with 40% from the field

Caris has picked up his play, but that came with a lot more minutes (and a hell of a lot more shots). And its then affected Spence since they both start and do best with the ball in their hands. Kenny's trying to stagger their minutes more but you see the issues in crunch time when they both need the ball, and don't offer much without it

Its an issue that has to be worked out, Kyrie or not. Caris needs to learn how to be consistently efficient without getting 35 minutes and 20-25 shots a night. Spencer does this a bit better, except for crunch time when he doesn't like giving up the ball.

Bingo. I can’t with Spencer hero ball antics. And Caris is way too inconsistent for my liking. @Raquinotj needs to address his lying.

 

[Raquinotj]

I've had him on ignore for like 2 months now, does he still come in here after wins without Kyrie

I have Literally no recollection of ever seeing your screenname. Didn't even know you existed. @ The bolded, Cool thing for you I guess.

Just as recent as this week, @Raquinotj lied and said Caris Levert has been playing like an All Star since Kyrie got hurt not knowing that CAris was coming off the bench playing 20 minutes a game prior to that.

Its a Fact Kyrie ball hogging stuns the development of young players(Tatum & Brown Last year. Levert this year), Here's an article from a non Boston media explaining why Levert plays better without Irving. Jayson Tatum looking like a Young Paul Pierce this year after looking like a Role player next to a ball hugging Point guard.

Brooklyn Nets: Why Caris LeVert plays better without Kyrie Irving


"Kyrie hasn’t changed his style since arriving in Brooklyn, as he is averaging 77.6touches per game. Furthermore, he is holding for 4.91 seconds during every touch. Consequently, Irving’s style has affected LeVert’s touches as he averaged 40.8 per game over his first 23 games.

The 40.8 touches per game have helped him attack the basket 11.7 times per game. LeVert created 5.2 points and 1.1 assists for Brooklyn on these drives. The diminished touches meant that spot-up shooting was the easiest way for him to raise his level of play."

 

[No Homo]

I have Literally no recollection of ever seeing your screenname. Didn't even know you existed. @ The bolded, Cool thing for you I guess.




Its a Fact Kyrie ball hogging stuns the development of young players(Tatum & Brown Last year. Levert this year), Here's an article from a non Boston media explaining why Levert plays better without Irving. Jayson Tatum looking like a Young Paul Pierce this year after looking like a Role player next to a ball hugging Point guard.

Brooklyn Nets: Why Caris LeVert plays better without Kyrie Irving


"Kyrie hasn’t changed his style since arriving in Brooklyn, as he is averaging 77.6touches per game. Furthermore, he is holding for 4.91 seconds during every touch. Consequently, Irving’s style has affected LeVert’s touches as he averaged 40.8 per game over his first 23 games.

The 40.8 touches per game have helped him attack the basket 11.7 times per game. LeVert created 5.2 points and 1.1 assists for Brooklyn on these drives. The diminished touches meant that spot-up shooting was the easiest way for him to raise his level of play."

This Kemba is averaging 74.2 touches, holding for 5.06 seconds every touch. Not much different than Kyrie.

Kembas shooting this year isn't as efficient.
"Kyries last season in Boston he averaged 18.5 shots a game shooting 49% from the field. 6.5 threes for Kyrie at 40%
Kemba is averaging 16.6 shots while shooting 44%. 8.7 threes for Kemba at 39%.

Kyries Usage 29.6 and Kembas 27.7."

So no Kyrie's ball hogging wasn't the problem. It's obvious something else was the problem last year with your team.



Now to go back to this stupid ass article.... it literally says in the next paragraph -
History has shown that LeVert’s level of play will fluctuate depending on how much head coach Kenny Atkinson allows him to touch the ball.

Consequently, Kenny Atkinson allowed Caris LeVert to touch the basketball 65 times a game in 32.3 minutes per game over his last 5 outings. The 65 touches per game helped him attack the basket 19 times per game.

No shyt as anyone who watches the Nets knows we have 3 high usage players in Kyrie, Levert and Dinwiddie. It was the same last year with Russell.
So trying to blame this on Kyrie is stupid when we complain about Dinwiddie dominating the ball too much. Its a Kenny problem.

 

[TR7]

This Kemba is averaging 74.2 touches, holding for 5.06 seconds every touch. Not much different than Kyrie.

Kembas shooting this year isn't as efficient.
"Kyries last season in Boston he averaged 18.5 shots a game shooting 49% from the field. 6.5 threes for Kyrie at 40%
Kemba is averaging 16.6 shots while shooting 44%. 8.7 threes for Kemba at 39%.

Kyries Usage 29.6 and Kembas 27.7."

So no Kyrie's ball hogging wasn't the problem. It's obvious something else was the problem last year with your team.



Now to go back to this stupid ass article.... it literally says in the next paragraph -
History has shown that LeVert’s level of play will fluctuate depending on how much head coach Kenny Atkinson allows him to touch the ball.

Consequently, Kenny Atkinson allowed Caris LeVert to touch the basketball 65 times a game in 32.3 minutes per game over his last 5 outings. The 65 touches per game helped him attack the basket 19 times per game.

No shyt as anyone who watches the Nets knows we have 3 high usage players in Kyrie, Levert and Dinwiddie. It was the same last year with Russell.
So trying to blame this on Kyrie is stupid when we complain about Dinwiddie dominating the ball too much. Its a Kenny problem.

All facts

I wonder has our friend here had anything to say about Tatum going up a level this past week, with Kemba out of the lineup? Clearly its been Kemba holding his true potential back this whole time right?

Or does that only apply when its Kyrie

 

[NYC Rebel]

This Kemba is averaging 74.2 touches, holding for 5.06 seconds every touch. Not much different than Kyrie.

Kembas shooting this year isn't as efficient.
"Kyries last season in Boston he averaged 18.5 shots a game shooting 49% from the field. 6.5 threes for Kyrie at 40%
Kemba is averaging 16.6 shots while shooting 44%. 8.7 threes for Kemba at 39%.

Kyries Usage 29.6 and Kembas 27.7."

So no Kyrie's ball hogging wasn't the problem. It's obvious something else was the problem last year with your team.



Now to go back to this stupid ass article.... it literally says in the next paragraph -
History has shown that LeVert’s level of play will fluctuate depending on how much head coach Kenny Atkinson allows him to touch the ball.

Consequently, Kenny Atkinson allowed Caris LeVert to touch the basketball 65 times a game in 32.3 minutes per game over his last 5 outings. The 65 touches per game helped him attack the basket 19 times per game.

No shyt as anyone who watches the Nets knows we have 3 high usage players in Kyrie, Levert and Dinwiddie. It was the same last year with Russell.
So trying to blame this on Kyrie is stupid when we complain about Dinwiddie dominating the ball too much. Its a Kenny problem.

@Raquinotj is a liar

 

[No Homo]

All facts

I wonder has our friend here had anything to say about Tatum going up a level this past week, with Kemba out of the lineup? Clearly its been Kemba holding his true potential back this whole time right?

Or does that only apply when its Kyrie

i didnt even know Kemba was out all this time.

I dont see any Tatum being held back by Kemba threads