on this day in 1965 Malcolm X was assassinated. Look at this tweet from the nat'l civil rights museu

[ReadOneBookAWeek]

Wether it was jealous members, 'lone wolfs', or agents, I still stand by Malcolms assassination not being under Elijah Muhammads orders.

 

[Geek Nasty]

I don't know what to believe anymore. There's 3-4 different narratives on Malcolm X and everyone has their own agenda.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Eugene Robert's strikes me as a dude who could have done a decent amount of good in the movement if it weren't for the fact he was a treasonous traitor. How did he sleep at night all those years.

to this day I don't think it was solely the NOI responsible for Malcolm'smurder, i believe that when Eugene Roberts informed his handlers he witnessed what was essentially a dress rehearsal for the assassination and basically all they told him was "we'll pass it on up, we'll handle it", they did that because they had at least a hand in planning it.

 

[Plankton]

"I didnt say that Elijah Muhammad had become blindly jealous...It was his family and the officials in Chicago"


Those are the first things Malcolm says in that video u just posted. You posted a video that I've watched a million times in response to me saying Elijah Muhammad never ordered any hit on Malcolm and the video u just posted says absolutly nothing about Elijah Muhammad putting any hit out on Malcolm. You just posting shyt with no merit at all. Can you please put me on ignore but for real this time.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

@Plankton get your corny, longtime lurker ass outta my thread with you're goofy schtick


we in here talking real shyt and you're disrespecting the gravity of the subject with cartoon pictures of plankton.


Your whole steez is suspect


you barely even post and THIS is the one that brings you out of hiding

I'm gonna personally make sure you get back in the red and stay there

 

[Roland Coltrane]

First MLK day tweet now this.

Smh

what happened with the mlk day tweet?

 

[Roland Coltrane]

so Malcom X wasn't apart of the Civil rights movement now?

is it fair to lump him in with a bunch of turn the other cheek pacifists who thought you could march, beg, plead, and cry your way to freedom?

holistically, economically, statistically, are we really any better off?

Having self defense and non violence in the same post. The fact that he wasn't in the civil rights movement makes the post even dumber. Smh

there's a reason why the storied and rich history of armed self defense during the Civil Rights movement are pretty much NEVER talked about. It's very purposeful

I got a copy of "This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed" on the recommendation of a coli breh, its essential reading. That along with "Negroes With Guns" by Robert F William's. There's also a book out there called "We Will Shoot Back" that looks like it might be in the same vein

 

[Solomon Caine]

Farrakhan and his worshippers are the dictionary definition of ‘all talk no action’.

 

[KOohbt]

so Malcom X wasn't apart of the Civil rights movement now?

No he was a part of the NOI. He left. Wasn't fighting for civil rights legislation.

 

[MikelArteta]

Goat biography

 

[get these nets]

I am surprised they didn't say:

"In his later years he became a staunch ally of LGBT rights and a fierce advocate for gender equality"

Manning Marable won a Pulitzer prize for suggesting Malcolm was gay in "A Llife of Reinvention".......so the lgbt community has tried to co-opt Malcolm in his death

 

[get these nets]

1. They didn't handle it righteously according to their own laws by bringing Malcolm in front of the congregation and holding trial over his accusations against Elijah Muhammad.

2. The NOI became a COINTELPRO organization that worked with the FBI, KKK & other CAC organizations.

3. Malcolm said himself that the NOI had become a criminal Enterprise. If you look into the (Philly) Black Mafia you will see that many high ranking NOI members were heavily involved in the drug trade and contract killing.

4 .The NOI as Malcom stated were only ever called to take up arms against "traitor" members, but never against the Klan or Police even when members were attacked. They have always been absent when it comes to fighting for our rights and protecting the community.

5. They claim Elijah Muhammad was a divine prophet and Master Card was the Supreme Being in the flesh. They're basically the black Scientology.

1. I am not a follower of the NOI, so I don't know the full allegations made against him and by whom.I do know that Malcolm was a straight arrow, and those in the organization who weren't, had an incentive to see him ousted.

2. I need proof that Cointel co-opted the leadership of the NOI. without that proof, your comment is intentionally misleading. feds had spies inside of every powerful Black organization. Having agents infiltrating a group doesn't make it a cointelpro organization .
NOI leadership aka Elijah Muhammad worked briefly with white separatist organizations to achieve the same goals..separation of races. At the time, NOI leadership was really about that and made efforts to get govt . to allocate territory for African Americans to create separate state.

3. See #1.......NOI initially recruited from jails and the segments of society that were labeled the bottom. Majority of those men reformed themselves, but some fell back into their old criminal lifestyles.

4. Malcolm did address this as one of the problems he had with NOI leadership, and his speaking out against it probably created problems for him later. Though I wouldn't go so far as to say that they didn't bang against white racists. NOI had branches across the south during civil rights era... and you won't read many accounts of klan or police attacking them down there. White people didn't want those problems, the threat of retaliation was the reason. Other Black self defense groups
existed down there that would bust shots.

Fighting for rights ? NOI as it existed when Malcolm was alive did not get involved in political demonstrations (or the political process, I think)
Protecting the community? Fruit of Islam was created as the muscle / military / police of the NOI The areas where the NOI operated in the city I grew up in were clean and safe...even at height of crack era. Same city where some of X's assassins were from, by coincidence.
5. Again, not follower so don't know what they believe, but to a non Christian....the stories of the bible would seem odd..

 

[Samori Toure]

is it fair to lump him in with a bunch of turn the other cheek pacifists who thought you could march, beg, plead, and cry your way to freedom?

holistically, economically, statistically

there's a reason why the storied and rich history of armed self defense during the Civil Rights movement are pretty much NEVER talked about. It's very purposeful

I got a copy of "This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed" on the recommendation of a coli breh, its essential reading. That along with "Negroes With Guns" by Robert F William's. There's also a book out there called "We Will Shoot Back" that looks like it might be in the same vein

They were not turn the other cheek pacifists. The nonviolence marches were actually a tactic used to draw attention to the savageness of White people in the South. The whole point of the marches was to show the nation and the rest of the World what White people were really like, which countered the White people propaganda narrative of being decent and wholesome.

The tactic clearly worked, because you believed that they were nonviolent. Hell those people marching were probably from the most violent areas in many cities.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

black liberals strike again

they hate black nationalists and they hate malcolm X

 

[Roland Coltrane]

The nonviolence marches were actually a tactic used to draw attention to the savageness of White people in the South.

They were not turn the other cheek pacifists.

these 2 don't jibe

If they weren't defending themselves from the savagery then they were turning the other cheek. The man most recognized as the leader of the movement preached pacifism and nonviolence