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OMG OMG Tamron Hall is married and is expecting
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Look....men are gonna sympathize with men's experiences just like women are gonna sympathize with women's experiences. I don't buy the "I couldn't find someone with the qualities I wanted" bullshyt because it's a cop out for most people. In THIRTY years you couldn't find one black man to fit your qualifications who wanted to marry you? Nah. I don't buy that shyt from black men so I'm damn sure not gonna buy it from black women. The only people I give passes to are ugly gang, short gang, and fat gang because after awhile you gotta do what you gotta do. One of the problems I have with this narrative is that it removes accountability from women. Dudes on this board have religiously stated that women waste their youth and childbearing years fukking with dudes who they probably shouldn't or thinking that they have all the time in the world to find their perfect black man and I used to think they were just bytching. But there's truth to it. We gonna call a spade a spade....cacs have no real standards are the simps of the human race.
She did have to get a white man....because she waited too long and that's all she was gonna find that fit what she wanted at this point. I have no problem with her doing whatever she wanted to do. But the idea that "black men pushed her to swirl" is bullshyt and that's what I reject.
To your second point about BM proposing to nonbw more quickly than BW.This is not true and has never been true. I know a chick who pregnant and engaged to a black man and they've been together for maybe a year at the most. This a black woman who complained endlessly about BM not wanting to commit and occasionally saying she was open to swirling.
She's 23.
@Eddy Gordo was correct in a way. BM's timeline is different than BW and the things we want when looking for marriage are different. This is where a lot of the disconnect is between BW and BM because as men we want to be as stable as possible before starting a family most of the time and this requires patience and someone who wants to build with us and a lot of BW don't want to do that anymore which is understandable to an extent. So as men we go solo and when we get right we then wanna then enjoy the fruits of our labor while women wanna get married and have kids. A lot of nonbw are aggressive in how they approach BM and "seemingly" hold them down which makes the man want to reward the woman's loyalty and seeing devotion to being with him with marriage. We know how these things end tho.
But nevertheless that's kinda where this shyt goes.
Also y'all gotta stop using nikkas who wanna pawg as the barometer for what black men do. I don't use swirling as a metric that BW are more submissive and loving to white men than black men. People who swirl do so for 3 reasons: some level of self hatred/c00ning, they're desperate, and a the least likely, love.
This board is full of nikkas who have no options when it come to the black women they want so settle for pawgs. Why do you think there's so many bed wench threads on here. If they were happy pawging they wouldn't care. Just like them LSA hoes wouldn't care who BM date if they were secure in their choice of partner. The nikkas are not to be taken serious.
I don't know Tamron's dating history. But you have a point, she could have spent her "prime" fukking with the wrong men. I don't know, my only point is that, your comment that she could have been had a black man--well yeah, but in order for her to be married to one--which is different from having sex to one and being in an LTR with one, that requires the man to propose to her, and it's sort out of her hand at that point, isn't it? If this white dude proposed to her, and the others didn't, then I can't fault her for accepting it, if marriage was something she valued, and no one else proposed to her when she was really wanting it(which according to this thread, she's been wanting to have children and get married for a while now).
I don't think BM pushed her to swirl(and would never say that), I don't know her enough to comment on what her reasons are for settling down with this man. I just know that this man proposed to her and gave her what she wanted.
Maybe she likes/prefers WM.I wasn't using swirling as a barometer, but my coworker felt hurt by it, and took it personal--which lets me know that perhaps she's seen this happen often for her white friends/or nonbw friends. She's single. She likes BM. She's in her twenties, btw and she's been in a couple of LTRs where she might feel like the men strung her along. It was probably a mixture of projection and also what she's observing that caused her to make the comments she did. For whatever reason, some black people(namely wenches and bucks) seem to be quicker to settle down with whites and more accepting of "whites" in a way that they aren't with blacks. Perhaps Tamron is one of those women.
Or perhaps it's what I said before--she never got proposed to, until now. I know plenty of women in my church that said they've spent decades single. Actually my pastor is a WM married to a BW. He's sort of a Jon B type of white dude, but still, he tells the story all the time of how his wife was single for a decade feeling so discouraged about marriage. And he came along and married her(WM). There are plenty of "older bw" that are in long periods of singledom, or in and out of relationships with men that refuse to commit, and so they wait until a man commits, because as you said, women want marriage and kids. It's easy for us to say from our perspective of Tamron, based on how she looks, her profession, and how she carries herself that it shouldn't be a struggle for her to find a man to marry her, but perhaps it was. Getting a man probably isn't difficult for her, but getting one to propose to her, might have taken this long. IDK, if anyone knows her dating pattern, I'll be interested to know if she's been proposed to before.
it's basically just the natural order or things, when men date out for whatever reason they are still the leader, generally speaking, when women date out they are following a white mans lead when 400 years of history is telling them they shouldn't
i'm not going to argue if this notion is right or not, it's just the natural order
Our community is so female based that many people don’t understand such a simple concept
There's a saying now... white women go to college to find a husband, black women go to college so they can live without one.....jussayin.....
Your really going to pretend that there isn't a reason for that? You really need a history lesson about the effects of white supremacy and oppression? Of course WW have the luxury of seeking husbands in college. BW have always had to work. We've been working since slavery. We've never been in a place(like WW) where we could be reliant on someone else to take care of us, the way WW have. That's why black parents usually stress that we need to focus on continuing to take care of ourselves. WW, on the other hand, have had a much different history in this country and they have the luxury to husband seek, and try to snag men that they know will take care of them(so that they be SAHM for instance). So if BW are going to college to live without one, it isn't necessarily because that's what BW want, it's because that's what BW have been taught.
Field Marshall Bradley
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Stopped right there..... You sure you qualified to have this discussion.......?? You sounding mighty young
Black women of the past went to school and found husbands. My grandmother and Great aunts all went to school and found husbands and worked jobs.
When were a large group of BW stay at home moms that did not have to work to help support the household? I'm interested in the history lesson(genuinely).
so happy for her
I know this is what she has wanted for a while
If she's happy, I'm happy
Killmonger is that you
Field Marshall Bradley
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Pre 1975...... It was the norm during the 60s, 50s, and prior for most black families....unless you were sharecropping....
BlaqkSpliffin
Ni**as Still Weird - Me
I don't know Tamron's dating history. But you have a point, she could have spent her "prime" fukking with the wrong men. I don't know, my only point is that, your comment that she could have been had a black man--well yeah, but in order for her to be married to one--which is different from having sex to one and being in an LTR with one, that requires the man to propose to her, and it's sort out of her hand at that point, isn't it? If this white dude proposed to her, and the others didn't, then I can't fault her for accepting it, if marriage was something she valued, and no one else proposed to her when she was really wanting it(which according to this thread, she's been wanting to have children and get married for a while now).
I don't think BM pushed her to swirl(and would never say that), I don't know her enough to comment on what her reasons are for settling down with this man. I just know that this man proposed to her and gave her what she wanted.
I wasn't using swirling as a barometer, but my coworker felt hurt by it, and took it personal--which lets me know that perhaps she's seen this happen often for her white friends/or nonbw friends. She's single. She likes BM. She's in her twenties, btw and she's been in a couple of LTRs where she might feel like the men strung her along. It was probably a mixture of projection and also what she's observing that caused her to make the comments she did. For whatever reason, some black people(namely wenches and bucks) seem to be quicker to settle down with whites and more accepting of "whites" in a way that they aren't with blacks. Perhaps Tamron is one of those women.
I mean get what your saying and there's some truth to it but there's also the truth that marriage isn't a big thing to black men anymore and that's due to systemic reasons and the overall negative atmosphere that a lot of women have put out there about marriage. I've always said it, if you've been single for 10 years and in that ten years you dated lets say 15 guys and none of them wanted to marry and have a family with you, then something is wrong with you and you're the problem. The same with men. Black people historically except less from non black people while having more stringent requirements of other black people. And that's in all things not just romantically. We have know idea why she chose what she chose just like we have no idea why Serena chose what she chose. The only thing I don't buy is that this is somehow black mens fault because they didn't want to marry her. Sometimes it's as simple as this, when you're a black person in a white environment you start to take on their personality traits and after awhile you fit better with them then you do other black people.
At the end of the day if she's happy and shyt more power to her. But the whole "men are the gatekeepers of commitment" shyt is overblown to be honest. There are men out here who wanna be in relationships and married everyday and don't because the woman they want doesn't want to commit to them for whatever reason. The reality that alot of BW have to face, particularly if they live in environment where there aren't a lot of BM, if they want to have a black family they don't have time to waste. Their clock starts at 18 to 35 and then falls off a cliff depending on their standards and their station in life. The black men who are their peers at that point are already settled down with the woman they want or will skew younger for various reasons. BM don't have that same clock due to the fact that we're much more simple in the sense we mainly care about attractiveness and vibe when choosing partners and not education and earning potential. Because of this our options are greater for longer if we take care of ourselves. BW are like NBA players. If they're lucky and do what they're supposed to do they'll reach LeBron James status and get out the game with a ring. If not the go out like Carmelo Anthony. Once a great player but now a washed up superstar hoping someone will take a chance on him so that he can have one last shot at just getting to the championship.
