Ok lets have this out right now: Better City Chicago or Cleveland.

[the next guy]

world class city or alpha++ as they call them is only NYC and London. I'd put Tokyo and Paris as well but some other researchers don't (Shanghai will be there soon too). Chi is a little under what a world class city is supposed to be, not a knock on it but it is what it is. I understand why some of my older fam left that bytch though since like someone else said the segregation and way they don't give a fukk about black people unless it messes with their money is shyt I can't co-sign.

Chi has a long history of treating black people like shyt and that selfhatred is manifested in its current issues in some of them areas as well. But that's another thread. Still Chi>Cle it's pretty much the capital of the midwest.

This is a growing problem. The violence is off putting though, that may be a reason.

 

[QuarterCenturyLegend]

I'm gonna pick Cleveland because I love my city but i'm not dumb enough to think somebody is gonna agree w/ me. Chicago is a beautiful place, joe. As far as Cleveland goes, we have great schools and our suburbs are wonderful places to start a family. As far as shyt to do, downtown pumpin a lil especially w/ the casino opening but I haven't been to a club in years cause i'm a bar type of nikka. Some of the best hospitals in the country so we have a lot of nurses running around the city. The best I can make my city sound cause we some mean mothafukkas

 

[So-Chi]

I mean they aight....I'm just saying they aren't on NYC/LA/DC/MIA scene level. But they damn sho ain't on Cleveland's level either

at throwing DC in there