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Digital Downloads.
I remember this one guy saying it was gonna be a done deal. Then LiquidSnake c/s'd him. Most of you guys said nah tho.
Let me look into the crystal ball right quick...

A thread was already made talking about how Sony acquired this cloud gaming company. Think Onlive, and the next playstation might be server based???
All this says is that the reality that was talked about that most of you denied?
Well, you looking dumb as shyt right now.

But fukk sony, what about the other players? How about the biggest player in the game?
EA...

EA is "going to be a 100% digital company, period" says Gibeau

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EA is "going to be a 100% digital company, period" says Gibeau

Mon 02 Jul 2012 2:59pm GMT / 10:59am EDT / 7:59am PDT
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EA's Labels president also tells us that NPD's monthly reports are "totally irrelevant"
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Electronic Arts is one of the publishers in this industry that is at the forefront of the digital transition. The company recently had its first year of digital revenues over one billion dollars, and now EA is expecting that number to jump closer to $2 billion (guidance of $1.7 billion in digital revenues this year). For EA Labels boss Frank Gibeau, the business is clearly at a tipping point. He told GamesIndustry International recently that EA clearly will be 100 percent digital in the near future.

We asked Gibeau point blank when the company will have most, if not all, revenues coming from digital products. It's not as far off as one might think.

"It's in the near future. It's coming. We have a clear line of sight on it and we're excited about it. Retail is a great channel for us. We have great relationships with our partners there. At the same time, the ultimate relationship is the connection that we have with the gamer. If the gamer wants to get the game through a digital download and that's the best way for them to get it, that's what we're going to do. It has a lot of enhancements for our business. It allows us to keep more that we make. It allows us to do some really interesting things from a service level standpoint; we can be a lot more personalized with what we're doing," Gibeau enthused.

"We're going to be a 100% digital company, period. It's going to be there some day. It's inevitable"

Frank Gibeau

EA isn't about to abandon retail and its valuable retail partners tomorrow, though.

"But if customers want to buy a game at retail, they can do that too. We'll continue to deliver games in whatever media formats make sense and as one ebbs and one starts to flow, we'll go in that direction," Gibeau continued. "For us, the fastest growing segment of our business is clearly digital and clearly digital services and ultimately Electronic Arts, at some point in the future - much like your question about streaming and cloud - we're going to be a 100% digital company, period. It's going to be there some day. It's inevitable."

The fact that more and more of the industry is going digital opens up new avenues for EA and other gaming companies.

"For us, we're focused in on the fact that the gaming market overall is broad. You have more people playing games now than ever before in the history of the industry. There are more markets available to us - Asia, Brazil, Russia - a bunch of emerging markets that are legitimate and growing fast. We have more devices that we can publish across now. We used to publish across three platforms; now we're publishing across 14 or 15," Gibeau said.

"[NPD] an irrelevant measure on the industry. It's totally irrelevant. We don't even really look at it internally anymore"

Frank Gibeau

"The advent of IP televisions and streaming - we'll be prepared for it. That'll be a way that we'll generate content and deliver it to customers in a high quality way. The next generation of hardware is going to come out. It's difficult to speculate what generation next would be after that, but there are opportunities in cloud and streaming that are very interesting to us and we have relationships with Gaikai and other companies where we've investigated a lot of that stuff and we clearly see our IP and our capabilities on the digital services front translating over very easily there."

Gibeau believes that some industry observers and investors are not grasping the complete picture. And part of the reason for that is the constant decline we've seen through NPD's monthly retail reports. Gibeau went so far as to say that EA all but ignores NPD's data now.

"I think one of the problems with this industry right now is that people tend to look at it like they're looking at an elephant through a straw. They only see a little parts of it and they're not looking at the total picture, right? Between Facebook, social, mobile, free to play on PC, Asia, consoles... it's a vibrant, growing, huge market. An occasional bad report from NPD, which measures a sliver of what's actually happening in gaming gives people an erroneous impression," he stressed.

Gibeau continued, "My point is it's an irrelevant measure on the industry. It's totally irrelevant. We don't even really look at it internally anymore. We're more focused on our services and how we're connected with consumers. The number of Nucleus accounts we're growing, the amount of engagement time that we have, the amount of services that we're running - those are more important metrics for us than unit sales according to NPD and North America. So your original question is about what comes next. It's growing. It's booming. It's big. Things are good. If cloud and streaming come on line at scale, we'll be in the position to do it and we're excited
We are not inching at a snails pace towards going all digital. But EA is saying they now make more money of digital than retail.
That means we are almost there already errr'body. Haters gonna hate tho :sadbron:
 

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Video game publisher Electronic Arts has a new feather in its cap: It has won The Consumerist’s Worst Company in America award.

The tournament rookie beat out America’s other most-hated companies by a landslide 64 percent vote. Rival honorees included Walmart, PayPal, Bank of America, and even fellow game industry villain, Gamestop.

A statement from The Consumerist, part of the nonprofit group that publishes Consumer Reports, noted that “while both Bank of America and EA drew consumer ire for their poorly-received practices of swallowing up smaller competitors and nickel-and-diming customers with up-charges and fees, EA’s success in this year’s tournament shines a spotlight on an industry that is often considered ignored by regulators, courts, and the mainstream media.”

“Some may look down their noses at the idea of voters picking a video game publisher as the Worst Company In America, but that is the exact kind of attitude that has allowed EA and its ilk to nickel and dime devoted customers for a decade,” said Chris Morran, Deputy Editor of Consumerist.com. “This is not just a few people complaining about bad games; this vote represents a large group of consumers who have grown sick and tired of being ignored and taken advantage of.”

Forbe’s Paul Tassi writes, “I’ve been covering hate of EA for quite a while now, and understand why their brand is so despised among gamers. They have [a] habit of buying beloved gaming companies and either summarily executing them, or corrupting them to the point where they’re almost unrecognizable. Most recently, fans mourned the apparent loss of Bioware. The genius [developer] was behind Knights of the Old Republic and Mass Effect, but the way newer titles like The Old Republic and Mass Effect 3 have been handled since EA took over has caused fans to lose faith. EA is at the forefront of some of the most annoying practices in the industry to date, such as restrictive DRM, seemingly abusive DLC and appearing to trade creativity for cash.”

Admittedly, while companies such as Bank of America and others have a much larger (negative) impact on America overall, Electronic Arts’ highly questionably business practices extend far beyond just mistreating consumers. In 2004, Erin Hoffman anonymously started the “EA Spouse” blog, where she detailed the company’s labor practices. This led to three class action lawsuits ultimately resulting in the plaintiffs being awarded $14.9M in unpaid overtime. Over the past several months, a number of former and current EA employees and journalists have told GamesBeat that the known offenses pale in comparison to the company’s ongoing practices. As The Consumerist notes, hopefully now more people will begin caring about it.

EA has also been caught manipulating media outlets into giving favorable coverage. Another anonymous blogger who claims to be a former viral marketer for EA asserts that his job (and many more like him) was to “troll” popular websites and forums under the guise of a normal user with the intention of derailing bad publicity.

Because admitting there’s a problem and working towards improving would be too obvious, EA’s spokesman John Reseburg released the following statement to GamesIndustry.biz: ”We’re sure that bank presidents, oil, tobacco and weapons companies are all relieved they weren’t on the list this year. We’re going to continue making award-winning games and services played by more than 300 million people worldwide.”

You certainly don’t need an evil decoder ring to translate that. As long as consumers keep buying EA’s unfinished games and critics keep handing out inflated review scores, the company seemingly doesn’t intend to change.
 

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I think it's a shyt plan. Not every gamer has a decent internet. Until then they can't just jump straight into digital downloads of games.

They'd be chopping down a good amount of potential customers.
 

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I think it's a shyt plan. Not every gamer has a decent internet. Until then they can't just jump straight into digital downloads of games.

They'd be chopping down a good amount of potential customers.

No they wouldn't. Because what you just said is basically a lie.
Everybody has the internet now. If you can't afford the internet, you can't afford a next gen system in the first place :hula:

Not to mention the HDTV that is needed/etc.
I don't get it why people like yourself are so stuck in 1999
When my daughters 7yr old friend comes by the house, and she's holding her own iPhone 4s. I look at her like :ohhh:
Wake up bruh, we already in the future. But did anybody peep this?
EA has also been caught manipulating media outlets into giving favorable coverage. Another anonymous blogger who claims to be a former viral marketer for EA asserts that his job (and many more like him) was to “troll” popular websites and forums under the guise of a normal user with the intention of derailing bad publicity.
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I think digital is "here". It'll be some time before the only way to get games is digitally. Especially for consoles. I can't say how long, but obviously the next round of consoles will have some sort of media reader.

I think that a lot of people are going to be surprised to see what the future holds in terms of video games:

Different pricing models (inc. a wide variety of F2P models)
Further penetration of digital distribution
Completely streamed games
 

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Internet providers are getting carried away with these fukking caps, and they think we're gonna we're gonna go 100% digital :heh:
 

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Internet providers are getting carried away with these fukking caps, and they think we're gonna we're gonna go 100% digital :heh:

Compared to other countries USA internet is still looking :flabbynsick:

While going full digital wouldn't bother me I still think going full scale now when we can't even net speeds like UK and have caps is a shyt idea.
 

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Compared to other countries USA internet is still looking :flabbynsick:

While going full digital wouldn't bother me I still think going full scale now when we can't even net speeds like UK and have caps is a shyt idea.

Once again, this cap shyt is a myth. You thinking you won't have enough space is a joke. You guys download demo's? Arcade titles? These things are as big as 2/3gb each. Thats just from my consoles alone. Then you add all the shyt I get off the internet? Yet I ain't never ONCE got a letter saying "You coming close to your limit buddy boy"
As somebody who has downloaded games for all 3 systems for years now, fukk outta here with this bullshyt you sayin. Cuz we already doing what you claim we can't :win:
 

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I'm still standing by physical copies. You can't trade digital games for credit.
 

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So basically what your saying is you don't want the digital age to come for financial reasons :ld:

Don't think that is enough to stop the oncoming digital revolution, but :manny:

I always buy new but because I'm not committed to keeping my games or starting a collection I used them to lower the price of the next game I buy.

Going full digital would just stop the whole process and that would stop how much I buy my games.
 
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