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How is this a win for Trump? Hundreds of people got killed because of a situation he started.
Trump fanboys will see anything he does as a win but I don't see how any rational person thinks anybody won in this situation :gucci:
aye bruh, if you wanna argue process, I'm all there... but Trump smoke their man and Iran pissed on their shoes :francis:
 

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How is this a win for Trump? Hundreds of people got killed because of a situation he started.
Trump fanboys will see anything he does as a win but I don't see how any rational person thinks anybody won in this situation :gucci:
Listen fam ,I’m not a trump fan boy and on a human level no,hundreds of people died ...so nobody won. It’s not trumps fault that Iran’s incompetence shot down its own plane . On a pure political level he won this

Trump can say he killed the man that killed hundreds of American soldiers in the Middle East and Iran did nothing ...how could you counter that ??Talk about the process ?...who cares about the process at this point

Iran should’ve played it’s position and not try to pull some Benghazi type shyt

All through that Benghazi shyt Republicans including trump said what would happen if they tried that shyt if they was in office ...Iran did it and Trump did what they said they would

They had their top general killed

said they would get great revenge ..they blew up an empty building ,shot down their own plane and got more sanctions ....how didn’t trump win in this situation?

If we had our number 2 murdered and trump responded the way Iran did we’d be all in this bytch laughing and handing trump an L

keep it 100.

I hope Bernie and Liz don’t jump out the window and say some goofy shyt during the debates about this situation because Bernie already looks like a crazy ass old man to some people and Liz has a tendency to say stupid shyt regarding foreign policy ...it would come back to bite them in the general
 

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How is this a win for Trump? Hundreds of people got killed because of a situation he started.
Trump fanboys will see anything he does as a win but I don't see how any rational person thinks anybody won in this situation :gucci:

Nah they aren't Trump fanboys. They have two actors they don't like - Iran and Trump, but they hate Iran more, so they hold their nose and chant USA USA USA until everyone around them shuts up.

What they don't realise is that fratboy behaviour is as shytty as the MAGA wearing a$$holes.
 

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aye bruh, if you wanna argue process, I'm all there... but Trump smoke their man and Iran pissed on their shoes :francis:

Listen fam ,I’m not a trump fan boy and on a human level no,hundreds of people died ...so nobody won. It’s not trumps fault that Iran’s incompetence shot down its own plane . On a pure political level he won this

Trump can say he killed the man that killed hundreds of American soldiers in the Middle East and Iran did nothing ...how could you counter that ??Talk about the process ?...who cares about the process at this point

Trump started some shyt for no real reason (as far as I know he's provided no believable reason that Solemani was an imminent threat) and several hundred people accidentally got killed in the crossfire.

Yes, Iran shot the missiles but it doesn't change the fact that all those people would be alive if Trump hadn't decided to provoke Iran for no reason. So yes it's partially Trump's fault.



Sorry but I just don't see Trump provoking a situation that got a bunch of people killed as some kind of political W. Not to mention the nuclear deal being thrown in the bushes.
 

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Iran says it 'unintentionally' shot down Ukrainian jetliner

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran announced Saturday that its military ‘unintentionally’ shot down a Ukrainian jetliner, killing all 176 aboard.

The statement came Saturday morning and blamed “human error” for the shootdown.

The jetliner, a Boeing 737 operated by Ukrainian International Airlines, went down on the outskirts of Tehran during takeoff just hours after Iran launched a barrage of missiles at U.S. forces.

Iran had denied for several days that a missile downed the aircraft. But then the U.S. and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believe Iran shot down the aircraft.

The plane, en route to the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, was carrying 167 passengers and nine crew members from several countries, including 82 Iranians, at least 63 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, according to officials.

Why were civilian planes flying while rockets are being fired in the first place?

crazy.
 

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Trump started some shyt for no real reason (as far as I know he's provided no believable reason that Solemani was an imminent threat) and several hundred people accidentally got killed in the crossfire.

Yes, Iran shot the missiles but it doesn't change the fact that all those people would be alive if Trump hadn't decided to provoke Iran for no reason. So yes it's partially Trump's fault.



Sorry but I just don't see Trump provoking a situation that got a bunch of people killed as some kind of political W. Not to mention the nuclear deal being thrown in the bushes.

Iran chose to blow up the plane

Iran chose to attack our embassy

Iran chose to shoot missles at our bases

if you’re not following, Iran CHOSE their course of action.
 

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Iran chose to blow up the plane

Iran chose to attack our embassy

Iran chose to shoot missles at our bases

if you’re not following, Iran CHOSE their course of action.
Again, how far back are we going? Stop acting like America is an innocent actor just chilling. It's a bullshyt narrative you feed to kids.
 

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Iran chose to blow up the plane

Iran chose to attack our embassy

Iran chose to shoot missles at our bases

if you’re not following, Iran CHOSE their course of action.

And Trump CHOSE to initiate an unnecessary military conflict with Iran.

If I knowingly provoke a crazy person and a bystander gets hurt or killed as a result, then yes I'm at fault for causing the situation.
 

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How is this a win for Trump? Hundreds of people got killed because of a situation he started.
Trump fanboys will see anything he does as a win but I don't see how any rational person thinks anybody won in this situation :gucci:

According to the people in the US, I think he won this. According to intelligent people (part of the US and outside the US), he lost because he started it, but people don't remember who started it, they remember how it ended and it ended with Iran shooting down their own plane and admitting it only after they got exposed for lying.
 

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According to the people in the US, I think he won this. According to intelligent people (part of the US and outside the US), he lost because he started it, but people don't remember who started it, they remember how it ended and it ended with Iran shooting down their own plane and admitting it only after they got exposed for lying.

According to who? FOX News viewers?
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I'm sorry but I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that Iran accidentally killing a bunch of civilians is some kind of W for Trump. Or anybody.
 

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Do we really believe there are Republican senators that wouldn't convict Trump in the senate, and he needs to appease? Almost everything points to the opposite dynamic, his entire presidency.
They had leverage and used it. Everything about Trump's presidency suggests this is true.

You act like he's not out polling his club members for decisions. If it increases his popularity he does it. He has no deep understanding of geopolitics.
 

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According to who? FOX News viewers?
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I'm sorry but I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that Iran accidentally killing a bunch of civilians is some kind of W for Trump. Or anybody.

You act like Trump wasn't put in office by a large number of dumb people. I don't think it's a W for Trump, but it certainly isn't an L in the court of public opinion. Reality does not matter. What matters is how the general public views it....and I think the fact that Iran fukked themselves over allowed Trump to get out of hot water. On to the next thing.
 
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