Official Trump Insurrection Rally 1/6/21 Fukkery, NY Probe, DOJ Probe & Georgia Probe Thread!

[nyknick]

He’s not guilty?

Innocent man. The whole wicked system of Roc Nation set him up

 

[King Static X]

Now, this clown is at a Cuban restaurant and being treated like a king. Fukk Cubans!

 

[King Static X]

He’s not guilty?

He pleaded not guilty (which is standard). It just means that it's going to trial (which hasn't started yet).

 

[Big Jo]

I am really well versed in the Justice Department, indictments, district court, I could name a half dozen of the guys from San Diego US Attorneys office from the top of my head. Have read over 1,000 charging documents, I have a folder with like 500 pdf of them saved on my desktop. I follow cases from Central District of California, Southern District of New York, in DC. I know how the PAW works, I know the difference between and indictment, a complaint, and an information, I know about the Public Corruption Unit in DC, on and on.

All that to say, most people cannot beat the feds. Money is a major mitigator and representation. But, even then, a jury still sees some wealthy dude, who is a weirdo and an a$$hole who stole 80 million from a fund or whatever. And they will almost always convict.

but what makes this defendant unique, is of course everything about the saga, but to beat the feds, he has the money, and he has the likability. And the irrational nature of people who love him. He could easily hang a jury. He could easily easily draw this out in motions for months and months, until the election. And then win. Maybe. Take this to the supreme court, where he will win too. Probably.

This is exposing a small, but glaring fissure in the whole system. And I caution to not get too excited or triumphant, or to see the whole thing as a social media type exercise in memes and reporting about who said what or his facial expression as he pleads not guilty.

this is not AT ALL a sure thing, despite being a really solid indictment. If you want a weak and confusing indictment read the Greg Craig indictment.

A jury already voted against him on the indictment though? You’re very well informed and of course there will be inherit biases but the indictment is encouraging and hopefully an indicator of what’s to come

 

[Silky Johnson]

I am really well versed in the Justice Department, indictments, district court, I could name a half dozen of the guys from San Diego US Attorneys office from the top of my head. Have read over 1,000 charging documents, I have a folder with like 500 pdf of them saved on my desktop. I follow cases from Central District of California, Southern District of New York, in DC. I know how the PAW works, I know the difference between and indictment, a complaint, and an information, I know about the Public Corruption Unit in DC, on and on.

All that to say, most people cannot beat the feds. Money is a major mitigator and representation. But, even then, a jury still sees some wealthy dude, who is a weirdo and an a$$hole who stole 80 million from a fund or whatever. And they will almost always convict.

but what makes this defendant unique, is of course everything about the saga, but to beat the feds, he has the money, and he has the likability. And the irrational nature of people who love him. He could easily hang a jury. He could easily easily draw this out in motions for months and months, until the election. And then win. Maybe. Take this to the supreme court, where he will win too. Probably.

This is exposing a small, but glaring fissure in the whole system. And I caution to not get too excited or triumphant, or to see the whole thing as a social media type exercise in memes and reporting about who said what or his facial expression as he pleads not guilty.

this is not AT ALL a sure thing, despite being a really solid indictment. If you want a weak and confusing indictment read the Greg Craig indictment.

Then you should know as well as I do that he has ZERO chance of charming the jury since his lawyers will not put him on the stand.

 

[Koapa]

Told yall about the Trump protesters. This is the 3rd string players. The 1st and 2nd strung players are locked up and on probation. They loves have been flipped inside out by the feds. They will not be there.

These flabby and sick swamp monsters would get dog walked if they got outta line today.

 

[BK The Great]

He pleaded not guilty (which is standard). It just means that it's going to trial (which hasn't started yet).

Oh ok. Thought this was for nothing.

 

[re'up]

A grand jury voted on the indictment, but grand juries are empaneled through jury duty process, they don't go through jury SELECTION which has a latin name I can't spell, voir doux

so it's 12 average people with only the federal prosecutor and his witnesses and evidence, every day for hours on end. Prosecutors don't always get indictments returned, see the Andrew McCabe indictment (the case was almost nonexistent) but they almost always do, partially because it's one sided. The defense isn't even in the room. So you have some dude who went to Harvard law school presenting evidence on 43 people with no education and no representation, and the feds all on their shyt, people in San Diego involved in a meth trafficking conspiracy. Or whatever. There's no push back.

The jury hears the phone calls, hears from cooperating witnesses, they show them pictures. It's very hard to collect all that evidence, in a sense, but it's essentially a captive audience, and a very convincing salesman.

a jury trial will be different.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

@re'up This isn't where it ends. This case has more teeth than the Manhattan D.A. but there's more coming from GA and possibly D.C.

If he beats all these cases tip your cap

 

[Nero Christ]

Now, this clown is at a Cuban restaurant and being treated like a king. Fukk Cubans!

Most pathetic group of people in the country w/o a doubt in my mind.

 

[Big Jo]

A grand jury voted on the indictment, but grand juries are empaneled through jury duty process, they don't go through jury SELECTION which has a latin name I can't spell, voir doux

so it's 12 average people with only the federal prosecutor and his witnesses and evidence, every day for hours on end. Prosecutors don't always get indictments returned, see the Andrew McCabe indictment (the case was almost nonexistent) but they almost always do, partially because it's one sided. The defense isn't even in the room. So you have some dude who went to Harvard law school presenting evidence on 43 people with no education and no representation, and the feds all on their shyt, people in San Diego involved in a meth trafficking conspiracy. Or whatever. There's no push back.

The jury hears the phone calls, hears from cooperating witnesses, they show them pictures. It's very hard to collect all that evidence, in a sense, but it's essentially a captive audience, and a very convincing salesman.

a jury trial will be different.

You really think the defense has that strong of a case? Or you’re saying the jury trial wouldn’t be a “captive” enough audience?

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

I am really well versed in the Justice Department, indictments, district court, I could name a half dozen of the guys from San Diego US Attorneys office from the top of my head. Have read over 1,000 charging documents, I have a folder with like 500 pdf of them saved on my desktop. I follow cases from Central District of California, Southern District of New York, in DC. I know how the PAW works, I know the difference between and indictment, a complaint, and an information, I know about the Public Corruption Unit in DC, on and on.

All that to say, most people cannot beat the feds. Money is a major mitigator and representation. But, even then, a jury still sees some wealthy dude, who is a weirdo and an a$$hole who stole 80 million from a fund or whatever. And they will almost always convict.

but what makes this defendant unique, is of course everything about the saga, but to beat the feds, he has the money, and he has the likability. And the irrational nature of people who love him. He could easily hang a jury. He could easily easily draw this out in motions for months and months, until the election. And then win. Maybe. Take this to the supreme court, where he will win too. Probably.

This is exposing a small, but glaring fissure in the whole system. And I caution to not get too excited or triumphant, or to see the whole thing as a social media type exercise in memes and reporting about who said what or his facial expression as he pleads not guilty.

this is not AT ALL a sure thing, despite being a really solid indictment. If you want a weak and confusing indictment read the Greg Craig indictment.

 

[Worthless Loser]

Hopefully they plan on dropping a Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Charge for all of them.

 

[Payday23]

Now, this clown is at a Cuban restaurant and being treated like a king. Fukk Cubans!

at these nuts

 

[winb83]

He really gonna shoot for jury nullification? He crazy. This seems like an open and shut case. He's even openly admitted he did what they accused him of.