Official Trump Insurrection Rally 1/6/21 Fukkery, NY Probe, DOJ Probe & Georgia Probe Thread!

[MAKAVELI25]

i agree with most of what you said here.... trump needed to take covid a little more serious and had he have done that, he'd be president now... even with his horrific handling of covid he still barely lost reelection.... so on the one hand he was smart, but on the other hand not so much....

I'm not so sure what gives everyone so much confidence that Trump was guaranteed to be elected without Covid.

We're talking about a guy that has never won the popular vote, never had an approval rating above 50 % (the ONLY post World War 2 President with this stat), and was a major cause behind two disastrous midterms for his party.

What are the data points that support Trump being guaranteed reelection without COVID? The first time he got impeached was for trying to coerce the Ukrainians in to giving him dirt about Biden, so clearly HE even thought Biden was a problem for him before COVID.

 

[Worthless Loser]

I'm not so sure what gives everyone so much confidence that Trump was guaranteed to be elected without Covid.

We're talking about a guy that has never won the popular vote, never had an approval rating above 50 % (the ONLY post World War 2 President with this stat), and was a major cause behind two disastrous midterms for his party.

What are the data points that support Trump being guaranteed reelection without COVID? The first time he got impeached was for trying to coerce the Ukrainians in to giving him dirt about Biden, so clearly HE even thought Biden was a problem for him before COVID.

Going by the smallest of margins, Trump only lost the election by 44,000 votes. He lost Arizona by 12,000, Georgia by 12,000 and Wisconsin by 20,000. If Trump were to win these states, he wins re-election on a 269-269 tie.

Mind you, that's with George Floyd and Covid at the same time. Plus an Impeachment on his record.

 

[mc_brew]

I'm not so sure what gives everyone so much confidence that Trump was guaranteed to be elected without Covid.

We're talking about a guy that has never won the popular vote, never had an approval rating above 50 % (the ONLY post World War 2 President with this stat), and was a major cause behind two disastrous midterms for his party.

What are the data points that support Trump being guaranteed reelection without COVID? The first time he got impeached was for trying to coerce the Ukrainians in to giving him dirt about Biden, so clearly HE even thought Biden was a problem for him before COVID.

for me it's simply that biden barely squeaked by in wisconsin (20k votes), arizona (12k votes), and georgia (12k votes).... to be clear, nothing is ever 100% guaranteed, but i find it hard to believe that if trump at least attempted to competently handle covid he couldn't have won over 44k more votes... he went from 63M in 2016 to 74M votes in 2020, that's 11M more votes... 44k more votes on top of that isn't a huge stretch of the imagination....

 

[Payday23]

for me it's simply that biden barely squeaked by in wisconsin (20k votes), arizona (12k votes), and georgia (12k votes).... to be clear, nothing is ever 100% guaranteed, but i find it hard to believe that if trump at least attempted to competently handle covid he couldn't have won over 44k more votes... he went from 63M in 2016 to 74M votes in 2020, that's 11M more votes... 44k more votes on top of that isn't a huge stretch of the imagination....

This. If trump handles COVID correctly he's reelected because a huge chunk of his base doesn't die as well. Instead he handled it in pure Trump fashion

 

[Payday23]

He's the world's worst criminal

Both in planning and execution.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

Going by the smallest of margins, Trump only lost the election by 44,000 votes. He lost Arizona by 12,000, Georgia by 12,000 and Wisconsin by 20,000. If Trump were to win these states, he wins re-election on a 269-269 tie.

Mind you, that's with George Floyd and Covid at the same time. Plus an Impeachment on his record.

I agree with you but I wanna tell y’all Desantis will be exposed big time especially when he’s facing questions about his tyrannical approach.

Trust me he will be attacked and I hope Trump goes 3rd party

 

[wire28]

for me it's simply that biden barely squeaked by in wisconsin (20k votes), arizona (12k votes), and georgia (12k votes).... to be clear, nothing is ever 100% guaranteed, but i find it hard to believe that if trump at least attempted to competently handle covid he couldn't have won over 44k more votes... he went from 63M in 2016 to 74M votes in 2020, that's 11M more votes... 44k more votes on top of that isn't a huge stretch of the imagination....

Just off the strength of him handling covid like a man that respects science, he probably would still have 15-20k MAGA warriors alive in each of those states. His bumbling of Covid was stupid for a myriad of reasons.

 

[Pressure]

If trump was competent he may of won reelection. He also wouldn’t have been elected in the first place if Americans were looking for competence in 2016

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Lmaooo

 

[Propaganda]

 

[Payday23]

He's caught orange handed

 

[Payday23]

-Parts of 4/2/23 Washington Post Article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/04/02/trump-mar-a-lago-obstruction-classified/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Justice Department and FBI investigators have amassed fresh evidence pointing to possible obstruction by former president Donald Trump in the investigation into top-secret documents found at his Mar-a-Lago home, according to people familiar with the matter.

The additional evidence comes as investigators have used emails and text messages from a former Trump aide to help understand key moments last year, said the people, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal investigation.

In the classified documents case, federal investigators have gathered new and significant evidence that after the subpoena was delivered, Trump looked through the contents of some of the boxes of documents in his home, apparently out of a desire to keep certain things in his possession, the people familiar with the investigation said.

Investigators now suspect, based on witness statements, security camera footage, and other documentary evidence, that boxes including classified material were moved from a Mar-a-Lago storage area after the subpoena was served, and that Trump personally examined at least some of those boxes, these people said. While Trump’s team returned some documents with classified markings in response to the subpoena, a later FBI search found more than 100 additional classified items that had not been turned over.

Court papers filed seeking judicial authorization for the FBI to conduct the search of Trump’s home show agents believed that “evidence of obstruction will be found at the premises.”

The application for court approval for that search said agents were pursuing evidence of violations of statutes including 18 USC 1519, which makes it a crime to alter, destroy, mutilate or conceal a document or tangible object “with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency.”

A key element in most obstruction cases is intent, because to bring such a charge, prosecutors have to be able to show that whatever actions were taken were done to try to hinder or block an investigation. In the Trump case, prosecutors and federal agents are trying to gather any evidence pointing to the motivation for Trump’s actions.

The Washington Post reported in October that Trump’s valet, Walt Nauta, had told investigators that he moved boxes at Mar-a-Lago at the former president’s instruction after the subpoena was issued. Smith’s team has video surveillance footage corroborating that account, The Post reported, and considers the evidence significant.

In addition, the people familiar with the investigation said, authorities have another category of evidence that they consider particularly helpful as they reconstruct events from last spring: emails and texts of Molly Michael, an assistant to the former president who followed him from the White House to Florida before she eventually left that job last year. Michael’s written communications have provided investigators with a detailed understanding of the day-to-day activity at Mar-a-Lago at critical moments, these people said.

Investigators have also amassed evidence indicating that Trump told others to mislead government officials in early 2022, before the subpoena, when the National Archives and Records Administration was working with the Justice Department to try to recover a wide range of papers, many of them not classified, from Trump’s time as president, the people familiar with the investigation said. While such alleged conduct may not constitute a crime, it could serve as evidence of the former president’s intent.

These people said prosecutors have collected evidence that Trump ignored requests from multiple advisers to return the documents to the archives over a period of a year, that he asked advisers and lawyers to release false statements claiming he had returned all documents, and that he grew angry after being subpoenaed for the documents.

Investigators also have evidence that Trump sought advice from other lawyers and advisers on how he could keep documents after being told by some on his team that he could not, people familiar with the investigation said. They have collected evidence that multiple advisers warned Trump that trying to keep the documents could be legally perilous.

As investigators piece together what happened in May and June of last year, they have been asking witnesses if Trump showed classified documents, including maps, to political donors, people familiar with those conversations said.

Such alleged conduct could demonstrate Trump’s habits when it came to classified documents, and what may have motivated him to want to keep the papers. The Post has previously reported that Trump told aides he did not want to return documents and other items from his presidency — which by law are supposed to remain in government custody — because he believed they belonged to him.

Investigators have also asked witnesses if Trump showed a particular interest in material relating to Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, people familiar with those interviews said. Milley was appointed by Trump but drew scorn and criticism from Trump and his supporters after a series of revelations in books about Milley’s efforts to rein in Trump toward the end of his term. In 2021, Trump repeatedly complained publicly about Milley, calling him an “idiot."

He should be looking at no less than 30 yrs for this

 

[Payday23]

 

[Robbie3000]

for me it's simply that biden barely squeaked by in wisconsin (20k votes), arizona (12k votes), and georgia (12k votes).... to be clear, nothing is ever 100% guaranteed, but i find it hard to believe that if trump at least attempted to competently handle covid he couldn't have won over 44k more votes... he went from 63M in 2016 to 74M votes in 2020, that's 11M more votes... 44k more votes on top of that isn't a huge stretch of the imagination....

People also rally behind the president during war or emergency.

Trump had a chance to bring the country together, but he instead chose to divide the country because he couldn’t be honest with himself or the country in regards to Covid.

He is also a guy who needs enemies and chaos to function.

 

[Robbie3000]

It will be glorious day.