Official Student Debt Cancellation Watch Thread

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You're misreading the data. The point is to show that at all income levels black peoples have significantly more debt. Black people are not attending post-collegiate institutions at the same rate as other people, which leads to those incomes but when they do the debt burden is significantly greater. But that aside, a lot of you guys are arguing a minority position with the confidence that most black people support you when it’s far from the case.





im not misreading the data, you are misreading the post that you quoted. Whites outnumber blacks 5-1 in college and only 9 percent of black people make over 100k. Go read the post again.

If you take 100,000 people and break it down based on racial demographics and college enrollment statistics

26,376 white kids will go to college
4,958 black kids go to college

15,825 white students will have an average debt of $16,000

4,314 black students will have an average debt of $23,400

Student loan forgiveness should not be marketed as a black program, period.

who said if we thought most blacks are in support of this or not? Where did you get that from?
 

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“Among the 45 million Americans with student loan debt, very, very few went to Harvard, Yale or Penn. Only 3% of Harvard College students take on any federal student loan debt. Quite simply put, student loan debt is not a problem of the elite. The vast majority of student loan borrowers are low- and middle-class Americans who had to go into debt to access postsecondary education, and who are paying dearly for it.”

“For many students, loans are unavoidable. For example, in Georgia, 90% of students who attend Spelman (a private HBCU) and 84% of students who attend Savannah State (a public university) have federal student loans.”


Importantly, studies have found that student loans are disproportionately held by women, Black and Latinx student loan borrowers -- delivering relief to these borrowers would further the interests of racial and gender equity.

And at every income level, Black households, long denied opportunities for asset building and subjected to wealth stripping policies, are more likely to hold debt than their white counterparts. The JPMorgan Institute found, "Black student loan borrowers having higher student loan balances and repayment burdens and being less likely to be making progress on their loans compared to white and Hispanic borrowers." Because Black families lack the intergenerational wealth that can provide an essential cushion against economic shocks, even Black borrowers in the highest income quartile are more likely to suffer default than white borrowers in the lowest income quartile.

 

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yall are responding to something nobody said. We didn’t say black people don’t support loan forgiveness, we said that practically none of the forgiveness money for high income earners will go to black people, so stop making this shyt out to be some sort of racial justice program when the income limit is 125k

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here is the breakdown of what share of money would go to whites and what share would go to whites for the top 25 percentile of earners


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yall are responding to something nobody said. We didn’t say black people don’t support loan forgiveness, we said that practically none of the forgiveness money for high income earners will go to black people, so stop making this shyt out to be some sort of racial justice program when the income limit is 125k

edit - for some reason the pic wouldn’t post

here is the breakdown of what share of money would go to whites and what share would go to whites for the top 25 percentile of earners


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You worry about cacs too much :heh:
 

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You can not argue that something is “racial justice” when 90 percent of the funds (for that income bracket) are going to white people.
Dude, you gonna have to stop coming in here sharing numbers you pulled out of your ass.

Black college students owe more debt and have a harder time paying it off than white students. The numbers are out there. You can say you against Student Loan debt because you don't want the government to pay off student loans, or whatever right-wing piece opinion you have, but you gotta stop saying this.

I know it doesn't matter because you don't care because your feelings>facts, but stop spouting this bullshyt.
 

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Dude, you gonna have to stop coming in here sharing numbers you pulled out of your ass.

Black college students owe more debt and have a harder time paying it off than white students. The numbers are out there. You can say you against Student Loan debt because you don't want the government to pay off student loans, or whatever right-wing piece opinion you have, but you gotta stop saying this.

I know it doesn't matter because you don't care because your feelings>facts, but stop spouting this bullshyt.

the fukk are you talking about? Go back and read nikka. I quoted a guy who posted stats

the fukk does any of this shyt you posted have to do with the FACT that in the higher income brackets almost all loan forgiveness money is going to white folks but you gullible ass nikkas think it’s racial justice
 

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the fukk are you talking about? Go back and read nikka. I quoted a guy who posted stats

the fukk does any of this shyt you posted have to do with the FACT that in the higher income brackets almost all loan forgiveness money is going to white folks but you gullible ass nikkas think it’s racial justice
I don’t give a fukk about higher income people, let them have their debt taking care of. When you spout bullshyt like “it’s not racial justice for blacks people” when black people on average have higher level of student loan debt and struggle repaying more than any other group, Thats what I call bullshyt. Miss me with the caveat you want to place, the numbers are the numbers.

You run in here with white, right wing talking points that you slicing off your nose to save your face. The facts do not back you, yet you are celebrating it.
 

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I don’t give a fukk about higher income people, let them have their debt taking care of. When you spout bullshyt like “it’s not racial justice for blacks people” when black people on average have higher level of student loan debt and struggle repaying more than any other group, Thats what I call bullshyt. Miss me with the caveat you want to place, the numbers are the numbers.

You run in here with white, right wing talking points that you slicing off your nose to save your face. The facts do not back you, yet you are celebrating it.

Eat a dikk and read slower next time. I explicitly mentioned loans for high income earners when speaking on the racial justice aspect

I’d offer to draw a picture but a graph has already been posted that shows that hardly any of that money would be spent on black folks
 

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Eat a dikk and read slower next time. I explicitly mentioned loans for high income earners when speaking on the racial justice aspect

I’d offer to draw a picture but a graph has already been posted that shows that hardly any of that money would be spent on black folks
Why do you keep talking about high income people? You can’t have a legit convo on this because your premise is wrong.

Simple question, do you support student loan debt relief? Yes or no?
 

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Why do you keep talking about high income people? You can’t have a legit convo on this because your premise is wrong.

Simple question, do you support student loan debt relief? Yes or no?

I just told you that I quoted a guy who posted the chart showing the break down of how the money would be spent on high earners. You’re asking me shyt that I’ve already answered several times

I support student debt relief for people below a certain income
 

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Houston dont support that shyt he just mad cuz nikkas about to get free shyt :umad:
 

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Houston dont support that shyt he just mad cuz nikkas about to get free shyt :umad:

How big of a slice are “Nikkas” getting right here? :mjpls:

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I want a program that’s structured so blacks are as overrepresented as possible. As you can see that clearly isn’t the case here.

you’re not concerned with what average black folks are going through, you just don’t wanna pay lsu for them 10 years :sas2:
 
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