TheGodling
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One mid-credit, one post credit. The post-credit is only required watching because of the audience reaction to it.
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*superman literally saves human race from going extinct*
"Superman didn't protect people!"
"Superman didn't protect people!"
TheGodling
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*superman literally saves human race from going extinct*
"Superman didn't protect people!"
Wonder Woman saved the human race from war too, but it's the No Man's Land scene that illustrates her as a hero because it's the scene that shows us why she is a hero. Too many movies just throw a guy out there and we just have to "accept" he's the hero because he's the hero character, but they never establish what makes him a hero. Yes, Superman protected the planet. But that is not what what makes Superman Superman.
Look at Die Hard. What makes John McClane one of the GOAT action heroes isn't because he fought off a bunch of terrorists, because we've seen guys do that in hundreds of action movies, it's how they establish his heroism by putting him through the blender, then watching him get up and push on letting the bad guys know "I'm still here buddy and I ain't stopping!"
No matter how many times I've said it, you always ignore my focal point which is context. Superman takes a fight from miles of open plains to a densely populated town because he's angry (ironically leaving his mother behind with two superpowered villains who could've fukked her up real bad), so how am I supposed to believe that this dude gives a shyt about protecting the people? He's literally the one who put everyone in danger in that scene.
I was a stan of Refn before I was a stan of Gosling, true story.
I don't dislike Zack Snyder at all. I do dislike trash ass Man Of Steel and I will say it again, Age Of Ultron, despite having a bunch of issues (which I even say the movie does in my highly popular review), did something that was absolutely needed at the time by re-establishing that superheroes should care for and aim to protect the people after MoS' indiscriminate disaster porn action and all the morons who defend that movie's awful tone.
It's the same reason that one of the things I like the least about this movie is that from beginning to end, Spidey jumps in unprepared and causes serious property damage that's entirely on him. Now the story is of course about Spidey learning in practice what responsibility really means, which I would think is a good move, but even at the end it is more that he gets lucky than that he actually learned.
The end kinda makes up for it so that's why I allow it, but I definitely think that in this universe we'd see a lot of "JJ Jameson for president" shirts.
A 7.5? Not dropping IMAX 3d money on this.Just got back from the premiere. It was alright. The comedy points were good, and the action was alright. Michael Keaton killed it as the villain. Marissa Tomei is so fine too
Overall, I still think the OG Spider-man with Toby Maguire was the best but this is a close 2nd. I'd give it 7.5/10
Post credit scenes were kinda lame. Spoilers below:
First one was a scene in prison where Nacho from Better Call Saul asking Vulture if he knew who Spider-man was.
The second scene was Captain America clowning on the audience for staying for a second post credit scene
It's going to get watched on a plain 2d screen.
loyola llothta
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Manana!!
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Well, I just got back from it and it's the best Spidey flick since Spider-Man 2, although that says more about the lack of quality in the Spider-Man movies after that one than it says anything about the quality of this. It's an entertaining movie, and I felt it played a lot like a PG-13 Deadpool (technically it's the other way around with Deadpool being an R-rated Spider-Man but you get my point). It is definitely more of a comedy, and it plays that role far more naturally than most Marvel movies do.
The story is pretty light and basically revolves around Spidey trying to prove himself as a hero, fukking up and causing massive property damage, being disappointed and disappointing Tony, then trying to prove himself as a hero, fukking up and causing massive property damage again. That happens like four times and pretty much make up most of the movie's action scenes, which I felt got kindaafter the second time and you realize the ferry scene from the trailer still has to happen. At the same time he struggles with his love for a senior girl (not Zendaya) and hiding his identity, blabla.
There's not too many dramatic beats, although the movie does deliver on some good moments with Keaton's Vulture. Funny enough, even though every time he appears he is very menacing and intimidating (handled very well), there was a point in the movie where I felt that he remained too flat as a character, but that's when the movie does something with him that I feel I should've seen coming but I didn't and it seriously had the whole audience likeand from that moment shyt definitely got real.
As far as the action goes, the director (forgot his name, he's a nobody anyway) definitely felt he came from the Marvel school of decent craftsman who does his job as told. Outside of the aforementioned scene, nothing about the direction ever stands out so while I did enjoy it more than the two ASM movies, even Marc Webb brought more of a vision to the table than this dude. That's probably the biggest thing keeping this movie from being really good, because you feel if they put/allowed someone more inspired on this, it could've been incredible. It's really time for Marvel to step their game up there.
Random side-notes:
This has to be one of the most diverse blockbuster casts I've ever seen. Yes, most of the headliners are white (Holland, Keaton, Tomei, Downey Jr) but the supporting cast is really the melting pot like you feel New York should be. I think outside of the teacher there's not even one white person in Peter's school who isn't an extra. There's also enough interracial agenda stuff going on to give the Coli militants a field day.
CGI-wise there are some issues, by which I mean that Spidey looks very weightless and animated in some scenes. shyt is definitely a step back compared to the last couple Spidey movies.
I don't know why they insist on keeping this tradition alive, but even in this movie Spider-Man finds himself on a rooftop next to a waving American flag for no goddamn reason. It's not so blatant as in some of the previous movies, but it's kinda obvious too when you know they keep putting that shyt into every movie.
I loved all the callbacks to the first Iron Man at the end of the movie. Kinda makes you hope that Marvel remembers how dope that movie was and why it worked.
The post-credits scene might be my favorite post-credits scene of all Marvel movies. Loved it, loved it, loved it!
How was Donald Glover's role?
I'm seriously considering going tonight at 7. Which I shouldn't do because I've got tix for tomorrow at 8 buuuuuuut
Props to him for keeping up the charade
going after work to see this
Uh oh!
Heard we got FUN Spidey back!
:meloohhh:
"HATERS GONNA HAAAAAATE!!!
LOVERS GONNA LOOOOOOVE!!!"
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Heard we got FUN Spidey back!
:meloohhh:
"HATERS GONNA HAAAAAATE!!!
LOVERS GONNA LOOOOOOVE!!!"
:mickeyleotah:
Yeah those asm films were so dour and dark.
Excuse me while I blow out my birthday candles
TheGodling
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You certainly can't stop thinking about it seeing how much you love to refer it peasant.:ducreux2:
5 minutes of screentime tops. He plays a local hoodlum who does dealings with the Vulture's men, and later Spidey interrogates him in arguably the funniest scene of the movie.