Official Sons Of Anarchy Season 5 Thread

[cook]

not as easy as that. Clay is first 9 and helped started and expand the club. You just can't kill him without proof.

obviously if he takes it to the club he needs proof. my problem is jax is all over the place these days. its sloppy writing and it only serves the agenda of the plot. it seems like the only thing he's doing by the exact laws of the club is his handling of clay, everything else is all shady side agreements.

even if he has proof of what clay did, they're still going to have to do some cover up story if they kill clay. a first 9 killing two other first 9s would be a huge blow to the entire MC if the truth ever came out.



if jax is going to act out of character and irrationally because opie got merked then atleast make it consistent. one minute he wants to be cool and calculated the the next hes minute screaming and yelling like an emotional bytch and killing soldiers who were just following orders

 

[Bud Bundy]

obviously if he takes it to the club he needs proof. my problem is jax is all over the place these days. its sloppy writing and it only serves the agenda of the plot. it seems like the only thing he's doing by the exact laws of the club is his handling of clay, everything else is all shady side agreements.

even if he has proof of what clay did, they're still going to have to do some cover up story if they kill clay. a first 9 killing two other first 9s would be a huge blow to the entire MC if the truth ever came out.



if jax is going to act out of character and irrationally because opie got merked then atleast make it consistent. one minute he wants to be cool and calculated the the next hes minute screaming and yelling like an emotional bytch and killing soldiers who were just following orders

It is in character. He can't get to pope so he acts irrational at the people who killed opie. Then he is calculated against all others. Seems to me when it comes to Opie then he is crazy.

yall ignoring how he killed that guard?

My guess is he is planning something extra special for pope.

 

[YBE]

I remember Clay making reference to it in season 1. He was telling Gemma to relax, Jax is not his son. If its true, what happens to the storyline because Kurt said SOA will be on for 2 more seasons. If Clay dies at the end of this season, what next?

^^^all of jax's actions or non actions are due to the hanging rico case. thats why he had tara giving inadvertant handjobs to otto and all this manuevering. kill clay and the club woulda been dead because the irish wont deal w/ anyone else but the old man, thus squashing all leverage w/ the feds. i get clay not being dead YET, but if rico goes away, unless the feds bring something else into play to hold over the SONs heads (which you kinda expect. its just how cops/the law works. they keep on using all your continuous dirt against you---just look at juice---and keep you on a string.

jax really being clay's son really would be a mindfukk.

i cant pinpoint the scenes (kinda hard to do with 5 seasons) but, there's been times when Clay was a lil too forgiving with Jax when Jax was back. Almost like a father watchin his only son that made it and letting the disrespect slide (like Denzel in He Got Game), when in reality, a step-father, especially a slimy, self-centered b*stard like Clay should've just as dispectful back...... "fukk you nikka, you not even my son" It makes me think he let all that shyt slide because he knows Jax is really his...


Clay helped form the club in '67, left for Vietnam then came back in '72. Jax was born in '78. Its a reach at best but, that shyt would be

 

[Starburst]

It is in character. He can't get to pope so he acts irrational at the people who killed opie. Then he is calculated against all others. Seems to me when it comes to Opie then he is crazy.

yall ignoring how he killed that guard?

My guess is he is planning something extra special for pope/B]

Remember how he also killed the ATF agent for Tara?

My guess is he is planning something extra special for pope.

See I don't think so. Pope is helping him look at the bigger picture. Jax is making smart decisions but to the rest of us it looks like

Nero was doing the same until he got caught up and too involved with Gemma. The bottom line is its Clay who set the ball rolling which caused Tig to kill the girl so none of it is Popes fault. I like their mentor/mentee relationship. I think Tara and Opie are the two people he trusted and loved unconditionally and now Opie is gone, Jax has adapted a selfish attitude and is doing whatever to get the club straight and leave with his family. I think he wants Tig to kill Clay then hand him over to Pope.

 

[Bud Bundy]

See I don't think so. Pope is helping him look at the bigger picture. Nero was doing the same until he got caught up and too involved with Gemma. The bottom line is its Clay who set the ball rolling which caused Tig to kill the girl so none of it is Popes fault. I like their mentor/mentee relationship. I think Tara and Opie are the two people he trusted and loved unconditionally and now Opie is gone, Jax has adapted a selfish attitude and is doing whatever to get the club straight and leave with his family. I think he wants Tig to kill Clay then hand him over to Pope.

that would be interesting if he was thinking that way.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Remember how he also killed the ATF agent for Tara?

That was for Tara's safety him killing that prision guard was just for some misplaced revenge.

 

[Starburst]

that would be interesting if he was thinking that way.

Just listen to the responses from Pope, he talks to Jax like a proud father, he has unintentionally taken him under his wing and tbh he has been upfront and honest with Jax about everything. Grim b*stards didn't want to give up Hightower and the Pres knew it that's why he freaked when the Sons found them.

O/T that Hightower dude is a big motherfather

 

[Starburst]

That was for Tara's safety him killing that prision guard was just for some misplaced revenge.

Hmmm I wouldn't say misplaced

IIRC, Jax wanted her to call the police, that dude was already in trouble for going AWOL so he would have got some lengthy time but It was when he called Tara a biker slut, Jax saw red then it was lights out. Same way he threatened to pound Clays hands into the table for talking slick about Tara. Opie and Tara, like I said, are the ones he loves unconditionally...besides his kids and anyone who messes with them has to die..like a lot.(Happy's one liner)


O/T we need a thread for Happys one liners, they are epic

 

[Bud Bundy]

IIRC, Jax wanted her to call the police, that dude was already in trouble for going AWOL so he would have got some lengthy time but It was when he called Tara a biker slut, Jax saw red then it was lights out. Same way he threatened to pound Clays hands into the table for talking slick about Tara. Opie and Tara, like I said, are the ones he loves unconditionally...besides his kids

He was telling her that he would be doing the same thing again so he just ended it.

I say misplaced because the guard was just doing what he was told just like when Tig was going to kill opie. He of all people should understand that by now since he allowed Tig to out live opie.

 

[Starburst]

He was telling her that he would be doing the same thing again so he just ended it.

I say misplaced because the guard was just doing what he was told just like when Tig was going to kill opie. He of all people should understand that by now since he allowed Tig to out live opie.

Like I said, Jax sees no logic when it comes to Tara and Opie. It was the guard who pulled Opie out, and the choice to keep Tig alive is for his own revenge.

 

[sknk80]

the writing on this show is so bad it blows my mind. shyt makes american horror story look like it was written by aaron sorkin

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Clay, Juice, Tig........All them dudes gotta die.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Clay, Juice, Tig........All them dudes gotta die.

lmao @ juice dying because of stupidity.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

lmao @ juice dying because of stupidity.

Pretty much.

I can't stand that character anymore, and he just too sloppy to get getting out of these situations scott free. He stays getting played a manipulated by other characters.


Clay gotta go just because he's dangerous. He don't give a fukk and he'll mess everything up just to get paid, get his seat back, and get even with someone he feels did him wrong. I'm convinced at this point that Clay is gonna kill Juice and Bobby.

Tig gotta go just because he's a sick fukk up that does nothing but get the club in trouble. So much of the trouble the club has been in has been because Tig was always on Clay's dikk.

 

[Starburst]

lmao @ juice dying because of stupidity.

For some reason, I don't think he dies this season.