Official PS5 Pro Enhanced Game Discussion Thread

[MeachTheMonster]

Highlight the part in the post you quoted where I said this. Thanks.

looks better on paper.

There is no such thing as “on paper”

Similar hardware will give you similar results.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

There is no such thing as “on paper”

Similar hardware will give you similar results.

Yea there is.

You're not getting those results if you lack the feature set, which is the case with IGN's comparison.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yea there is.

You're not getting those results if you lack the feature set, which is the case with IGN's comparison.

Thinking there’s some special thing sony can do with hardware that isn’t available elsewhere

Sony stans

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Sony stans

You should have just done this the first time. It would have saved you from looking silly by trying to lie about what I said.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You should have just done this the first time. It would have saved you from looking silly by trying to lie about what I said.

That’s literally the same thing i said the first time.

And i’m not the one lying here.

From “the cell” to “gddr” to “ssd” now to “pssr” sony dummies drink the koolaide with every hardware release.

Sony stans

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

@The Devil's Advocate no dog in this fight, but let me play devil’s advocate with you

Say you bought the original PS5 and now want to get the PS5 pro…you’re actually paying $700 + whatever you originally paid for the base PS5. With that money you could have just got a decked out PC in the first place

Or I could just sell my PS5..........

But I'll play... I bought a ps5 in 2020, 4 years ago.. So yes, TODAY, I would have had a better PC. But from 2020-2024 when I only spent $500, I wouldn't have a superior PC. In fact, I'd have had to choose 1 and the PS5 for $500 would have still been the better buy

But lets say I bought a $500 PC back then..... And now I only needed the GPU to upgrade............. I'd have a way better PC using the $700 to upgrade than I would having the PS5 Pro. But I'd have a worst system from 2020-2024 in order to do it and I've built 2 PCs.



And that's exactly why most people are going to go to Best buy, buy a ps5, have 4 years of fun.... Sell it.... Buy another 1... And do that for the rest of their lives

CAUSE IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER... I keep saying it. If you spend more money and time, you'll have a better PC. But you won't have it for EQUAL or less of either

 

[King Sun]

Or I could just sell my PS5..........

But I'll play... I bought a ps5 in 2020, 4 years ago.. So yes, TODAY, I would have had a better PC. But from 2020-2024 when I only spent $500, I wouldn't have a superior PC. In fact, I'd have had to choose 1 and the PS5 for $500 would have still been the better buy

But lets say I bought a $500 PC back then..... And now I only needed the GPU to upgrade............. I'd have a way better PC using the $700 to upgrade than I would having the PS5 Pro. But I'd have a worst system from 2020-2024 in order to do it and I've built 2 PCs.



And that's exactly why most people are going to go to Best buy, buy a ps5, have 4 years of fun.... Sell it.... Buy another 1... And do that for the rest of their lives

CAUSE IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER... I keep saying it. If you spend more money and time, you'll have a better PC. But you won't have it for EQUAL or less of either

I always tell people unless your going to buy used parts and deals try to have at 1200 for a pc to build if you want something thats heads and shoulders better than a console and enough room to upgrade in the future.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Crazy how Digital Foundry has done a complete 180 since the Pro was first announced.

How PlayStation 5 Pro lays the groundwork for PS6 and beyond

A new DF Direct Weekly lands - as usual - today, with the team's thoughts on the recent State of Play, reaction to the …

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PS5 Pro has demonstrated that the opportunities to increase console performance and features by simply producing faster, more complex CPUs and GPUs is now over. For a $100 price premium, Sony doubled the size of the PS4 GPU in making PS4 Pro. Today, with PS5 Pro, a $250 price premium (over the equivalent digital base model) cannot do the same. Sony is achieving similar, if not outright superior results, by adding machine learning silicon and amplifying graphics via AI hardware. It has also allowed Sony to add in enhanced ray tracing capabilities into what must surely have been a very tight silicon budget.

Looking at the criticisms of PS5 Pro today, I am reminded of the massive backlash against Nvidia's RTX 20-series products based on the Turing architecture back in 2018. The products were pricey, nobody bought into the AI narrative, ray tracing was derided. And yet today, DLSS upscaling has proven to be one of the most transformative technologies in the PC space - a desired feature for users and coveted by the competition. Ray tracing? With smart technological innovations, an immense level of investment in software like ReSTIR and strategic partnerships with key game makers, Nvidia brought actual path tracing to triple-A games.

We are looking at such a big change here that absolutely we should be looking at PlayStation 5 Pro as the console that sets the ball rolling for Sony in an area of crucial importance. I'd even venture to suggest that PlayStation 6 may even need PlayStation 5 Pro to exist for this evolution to happen. Sony's technology groups need time to develop technologies like PSSR and to ship them and to refine them. Meanwhile, developers need to grow accustomed to these technologies instead of simply focusing on them for their PC game

Sony is obviously not alone in these endeavours. Switch 2 will ship in 2025 with RT and machine learning silicon in its T239 processor and unlike Sony, Nintendo has the benefit of tapping into Nvidia's existing technologies. And then there's Microsoft. Xbox president Sarah Bond has talked about gen 10 delivering "the biggest technological leap ever in a generation" and I'd put good money on this referring to machine learning-based technologies as opposed to a wallet-busting gigantor-class GPU.

Going back to PS5 Pro though, we've now seen enough of the machine to say with some level of conviction that it does what Sony says it does - but more than that, with titles like F1 24, there's evidence that those that target the hardware specifically will see much bigger boosts than simply 'fidelity mode at 60fps'. PS5 Pro doesn't answer the value question conclusively - not yet - but it's delivering clearly superior results to base hardware. More holistically though, today's added enhancements may well be laying the foundation work for the viability of 10th generation console hardware - and in that sense, its importance shouldn't be underestimated.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Or I could just sell my PS5..........

But I'll play... I bought a ps5 in 2020, 4 years ago.. So yes, TODAY, I would have had a better PC. But from 2020-2024 when I only spent $500, I wouldn't have a superior PC. In fact, I'd have had to choose 1 and the PS5 for $500 would have still been the better buy

But lets say I bought a $500 PC back then..... And now I only needed the GPU to upgrade............. I'd have a way better PC using the $700 to upgrade than I would having the PS5 Pro. But I'd have a worst system from 2020-2024 in order to do it and I've built 2 PCs.



And that's exactly why most people are going to go to Best buy, buy a ps5, have 4 years of fun.... Sell it.... Buy another 1... And do that for the rest of their lives

CAUSE IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER... I keep saying it. If you spend more money and time, you'll have a better PC. But you won't have it for EQUAL or less of either

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Damn imagine playing a PS5 now. shyt is outdated.

 

[daze23]

"ps5 amateur"

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Damn imagine playing a PS5 now. shyt is outdated.

RIP to the PS5 base model brehs

 

[ReggieFlare]

But I'll play... I bought a ps5 in 2020, 4 years ago.. So yes, TODAY, I would have had a better PC. But from 2020-2024 when I only spent $500, I wouldn't have a superior PC. In fact, I'd have had to choose 1 and the PS5 for $500 would have still been the better buy

But lets say I bought a $500 PC back then..... And now I only needed the GPU to upgrade............. I'd have a way better PC using the $700 to upgrade than I would having the PS5 Pro. But I'd have a worst system from 2020-2024 in order to do it and I've built 2 PCs.



And that's exactly why most people are going to go to Best buy, buy a ps5, have 4 years of fun.... Sell it.... Buy another 1... And do that for the rest of their lives

CAUSE IT'S EASIER AND CHEAPER... I keep saying it. If you spend more money and time, you'll have a better PC. But you won't have it for EQUAL or less of either

I don’t disagree, you’re going to generally pay more. My point really is just if you bite the bullet upfront you can get a really good PC and don’t have to upgrade later down the line nor deal with the console upgrade shenanigans.

If you want the ease of use and just wanna plug and play cool, but I think the difficulty in setup and overhead people talk about concerning PC’s is overstated. From a casual gaming perspective I get it but PC is IMO the best gaming experience overall.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I always tell people unless your going to buy used parts and deals try to have at 1200 for a pc to build if you want something thats heads and shoulders better than a console and enough room to upgrade in the future.

I agree fully. Like most of us, I have a PS5 and a PC. I'm building my second one now, after not having to upgrade anything but ram since 2018. Now I've added a new power supply and GPU.. I'm literally doing what the PC guys are saying will be cheaper...

And it's not cheaper.. not at any point. Not when you upgrade. Not over years. Not any of it. Unless you are buying used parts. But then it's not gonna be cheaper than a used console so that still doesn't fit the narrative

I don’t disagree, you’re going to generally pay more. My point really is just if you bite the bullet upfront you can get a really good PC and don’t have to upgrade later down the line nor deal with the console upgrade shenanigans.

If you want the ease of use and just wanna plug and play cool, but I think the difficulty in setup and overhead people talk about concerning PC’s is overstated. From a casual gaming perspective I get it but PC is IMO the best gaming experience overall.

If you look at the thread, most of us have been saying this the entire time

The PC guys are the ones trying to come up with 150 scenarios of how it's the same amount and we're all just ignorant to that fact. When in reality, these dudes removing parts that wouldn't allow you turn on a pc without them, they are adding up used shyt, shyt on sale, walmart shyt, and hooking it up to their living room tv's, just to try to get a win... And it's still more money

 

[King Sun]

I agree fully. Like most of us, I have a PS5 and a PC. I'm building my second one now, after not having to upgrade anything but ram since 2018. Now I've added a new power supply and GPU.. I'm literally doing what the PC guys are saying will be cheaper...

And it's not cheaper.. not at any point. Not when you upgrade. Not over years. Not any of it. Unless you are buying used parts. But then it's not gonna be cheaper than a used console so that still doesn't fit the narrative


If you look at the thread, most of us have been saying this the entire time

The PC guys are the ones trying to come up with 150 scenarios of how it's the same amount and we're all just ignorant to that fact. When in reality, these dudes removing parts that wouldn't allow you turn on a pc without them, they are adding up used shyt, shyt on sale, walmart shyt, and hooking it up to their living room tv's, just to try to get a win... And it's still more money

This dudes keep crying "its so easy" which I argue its easy for people like us but imagine asking the average console buyer to do cable management in a case or shyt more less correctly seating a processor in a board