Official Professor BlackTruth thread
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I think what he said is an oversimplification and a dangerous one."ADOS" have a chief enemy and everyone knows who that is.
Additionally it isn't just ADOS (experienced white domination) and non-ADOS (no white domination).
There are at least the following groups (with some overlap) and this still does not cover everything.
ADOS - slavery and racism in the USA.
non-ADOS Caribbean - slavery and racism in the Carribbean non-Latino .
non-ADOS Caribbean + SA - slavery and racism in the Carribbean Latino.
non-ADOS Canadians - a more subtle form of racism but racism and many are ex-ADOS who fled north.
non-ADOS Broader Black Diaspora 1st World
non-ADOS Broader Black Diaspora non-1st World
non-ADOS African ex colonial nations - current subtle racism reasonably developed
non-ADOS African ex colonial nations - extreme racism
non-ADOS East African and in particular Horn countries
While some of these might trust the system more because their experiences with yts were not as marked or as recent, people in places like South Africa are at the other end of that scale and were subject to the most brutal oppression and in places still are. A black man who has been living one of the racism hotspots is not going to come to America without his wits about him about the reality of this world.
There are many in these non-ADOS groups who believe that ADOS could do more with the opportunities that they have and there are some (Horn countries) where many have issues with ADOS based on ethnicity.
The (sometimes unwarranted) positivity from non-ADOS generally and the fact that they act/sound differently/different (1st gen) means that they temporarily do not get pigeon-holed as swiftly as true ADOS and sometimes have fewer initial headwinds in dealing with American whites.
Its like German-Americans vs Anglo-Saxon Americans. As they entered the USA the Brits had a small but significant social (etc) advantage which still impacts the ethnicity distribution of resources and influence in the USA to this very day. It's hard to see but it is there. Likewise Nigerians (for example) or even Indians (as another example) do better in the USA than they do respectively elsewhere and wrt ADOS because of the aforementioned immigrant vigor/attitude but also because there isn't the same ready-made negative pigeon-hole for yts to put them in. That is why Obama was a possibility for yts because he was not dyed-in-the-wool ADOS and so they were less likely to auto-reflex pigeon-hole him.
It's hard to generalize but on average the mindset that you would get from the average 1st generation black Brit, Hollander or South African immigrant to the USA will generally be very different to that which you would get from your average 1st generation Ethiopian - especially and Ethiopian who had not lived outside of Ethiopia before.
So yeah there are some differences and there are some who do not appreciate the work that ADOS have done to establish a place in US society. This is more prevalent in groups which are less likely to have faced white racism directly in recent history at home, and those who's native countries are discriminatory against blackness, and in groups which are less likely to face racism after they have arrived in the USA.
When PBT suggests that there are two camps which largely stand in opposition to each other however, he is wrong.
he's speaking from an AA perspective, and how alotta immigrants were used by the white supremacists against AA's
i don't think its him simplifying it down to two sides, but rather he speaking from an uncompromising AA position..
and how WS uses divide & conquer against different black groups, when they're against ALL of us..
peep how he's talking bout cruel humiliating jokes from 16:55 - 20:00 in the video, and how they get a kick outta sweeping the rug out from under their victims
the longer it takes to pay off the more satisfying for em..
"Everybody's in on the joke, except for the mark."
alotta that socially friendly shyt is just a front cuz anti-black racism doesn't like any of us, no matter what our attitude is or how we talk or dress, black folks even used to get lynched wearing suits..
at 27:30 in the video PBT asks an important question:
"How many of those people in Ilhan Omar's district back in Minnesota, how many of them are Trump supporters?"
and mentions how hillary in 2016 only won Minnesota by only 1.5% over trump, basically saying ilhan omar was surrounded by enemies long before this incident..
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he's speaking from an AA perspective, and how alotta immigrants were used by the white supremacists against AA's
i don't think its him simplifying it down to two sides, but rather he speaking from an uncompromising AA position..
and how WS uses divide & conquer against different black groups, when they're against ALL of us..
peep how he's talking bout cruel humiliating jokes from 16:55 - 20:00 in the video, and how they get a kick outta sweeping the rug out from under their victims
the longer it takes to pay off the more satisfying for em..
"Everybody's in on the joke, except for the mark."
alotta that socially friendly shyt is just a front cuz anti-black racism doesn't like any of us, no matter what our attitude is or how we talk or dress, black folks even used to get lynched wearing suits..
at 27:30 in the video PBT asks an important question:
"How many of those people in Ilhan Omar's district back in Minnesota, how many of them are Trump supporters?"
and mentions how hillary in 2016 only won Minnesota by only 1.5% over trump, basically saying ilhan omar was surrounded by enemies long before this incident..
He said effectively "Most (NOT all) non-ADOS immigrants thought that they would replace AA and are now getting their wake-up call".
might sound like a generalization, cuz i know there's immigrants not on the BS..
pan-africanism is supposed to be a two way street..
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Indeed. As Garvey would tell you. I've seen that TBA video before. Him focusing on what black countries do (or DONT do) for black ADOS shows that my sub-division of non-ADOS groups has merit. The black diaspora in Europe or South America is not in a position for national cooperation or programs with AA.
I am familiar with TBA's "broadcast"
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