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It’s still black art even with Alchemist, I mean is Mass Appeal not a black label because Bittenbender is involved? I don’t think Nas is thinking that deep we don’t need to reason for him.


He’s DEFINITELY thinking that deep have you been LISTENING to the albums the last 4 years or paying attention to Nas moves?


KD1- First single is ULTRA BLACK. A song and video filled to the brim with black love and pride. That song doesn’t have the FEELING that it does produced by Alchemist. Alchemist don’t know shyt about the black experience I don’t care how many rappers he produces for or how many crates he digs in.

KD2- Nas Is Good first verse and I quote

Touch up the game like a photo edit
Camera roll like Oscar Michaeux, they gotta roll the credits
Like Rome came into Kemet and they stole the essence
Before they watered it down and taught us bogus lessons
Written in stone, write whatever in your history books
Me and ancient Egyptian skin tone had similar looks

Oscar Micheaux was a black film director, one of the very first who actually directed and distributed films featuring ALL BLACK casts and production crews. He did all of his work independently working from scripts he adapted from his own novels.



KD3- “We comin' blacker than Black Panther 2”.

Can’t be coming BLACKER than a film with a 90% black cast rapping over non-black beats

Magic 2- “G.O.A.T. with all the success, the negative press, I'm watchin' it pile (uh)
They sayin' that black music dyin', I'm sayin', "They wipin' us out!"

What would be the best way for a black artist to combat what he feels is the trivialization, minimization, and deprecation of black music? How about collaborating with another BLACK ARTIST for a series of albums that sees these BLACK ARTISTS win a Grammy, be nominated for 3 more, and experience more good press and accolades than either had received in almost a decade?
 
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What do u have against Alchemist bro real talk? Is it just cause he white cause that's wild. U can't even use this excuse with Nas because he's made plenty tracks with Al dating back to 99. They are friends. He was even there for Magic 2 and 3. Alchemist is the better producer in 2024 than Premo.


I’ve explained this before. I think he’s overrated and nothing he does is better than the best black producers you can name. Its quite simple
 

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After giving it a few listens, gotta be honest brehs Nas pen game is still immaculate but the beat is average asf.
Sounds like a generic Primo throwaway. It's also too repetitive. It needs something more.

I think I got spoiled from Hit's beats where he would put like 2-3 beat switches in his songs.

If this is what the whole album gonna sound like ill pass, but if this is just a warm up or throwaway, then it's cool.

Hopefully Nas and Primo see the lukewarm reaction and go back in the lab and re-focus

After all these years you'd think Nas and Preem would come out the gate swinging and give us a "Nas Is Like" type track
 

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He’s DEFINITELY thinking that deep have you been LISTENING to the albums the last 4 years or paying attention to Nas moves?


KD1- First single is ULTRA BLACK. A song and video filled to the brim with black love and pride. That song doesn’t have the FEELING that it does produced by Alchemist. Alchemist don’t know shyt about the black experience I don’t care how many rappers he produces for or how many crates he digs in.

KD2- Nas Is Good first verse and I quote

Touch up the game like a photo edit
Camera roll like Oscar Michaeux, they gotta roll the credits
Like Rome came into Kemet and they stole the essence
Before they watered it down and taught us bogus lessons
Written in stone, write whatever in your history books
Me and ancient Egyptian skin tone had similar looks

Oscar Micheaux was a black film director, one of the very first who actually directed and distributed films featuring ALL BLACK casts and production crews. He did all of his work independently working from scripts he adapted from his own novels.



KD3- “We comin' blacker than Black Panther 2”.

Can’t be coming BLACKER than a film with a 90% black cast rapping over non-black beats

Magic 2- “G.O.A.T. with all the success, the negative press, I'm watchin' it pile (uh)
They sayin' that black music dyin', I'm sayin', "They wipin' us out!"

What would be the best way for a black artist to combat what he feels is the trivialization, minimization, and deprecation of black music? How about collaborating with another BLACK ARTIST for a series of albums that sees these BLACK ARTISTS win a Grammy, be nominated for 3 more, and experience more good press and accolades than either had received in almost a decade?

I know all this but his own label he is in partnership with a white man, as he is with Sweet Chick, I follow what people do not what they say.

None of those messages is eradicated by having a white producer producer those beats, his been having the same message since forever and ALC produced on both Lost tapes and Gods son.

By the way Nas had a white rapper who made disparaging comments about black women on one of those albums, something we’ve not known Alcehemist to do? What’s your reasoning for that?
 

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I know all this but his own label he is in partnership with a white man, as he is with Sweet Chick, I follow what people do not what they say.

None of those messages is eradicated by having a white producer producer those beats, his been having the same message since forever and ALC produced on both Lost tapes and Gods son.

By the way Nas had a white rapper who made disparaging comments about black women on one of those albums, something we’ve not known Alcehemist to do? What’s your reasoning for that?

This here, Nas been friends with Alc for like 20+ damn years, as you stated Alc had beats on both God's Son and Lost Tapes

Nas also has is label AND his Sweet Chick franchise in partnership with white dudes
 
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