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Yea I definitely get that about reviewers. But you know me breh. I love playing devils advocate so I have no problem watching a movie and disagreeing with what the reviews say. It's like watching the news. I'll watch local news and see stories, but take them with a grain of salt until I actually go online and research the story for myself and see all the sides reporting on it before I take a side on the issue. And I'm usually the guy that likes movies that get panned by critics (Interstellar) and dislikes over hyped movies (Gravity).

Whereas i disliked both equally :russ:

I feel that though, I don't think there's anything wrong with either approach, I just know what works for me. I go in blind, free of anyone's thoughts other than my own and let the movie do what it does. I think over the years I've become a little better at being able to do both though because I don't know how or why, but I read a Godzilla review or two before I saw it, maybe I was bored, and i definitely disagreed with the reviews. Not to say it was a bad movie but they were glowing reviews about a movie that in the end was just okay to me
 

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I haven't seen Kong in so long so I don't even feel comfortable making a choice for real. Their podcast gave me an idea of some shyt we should do like that. Either have a film room canon, like flicks we feel like as a board are untouchable and we all vote to see what makes it in and what doesn't on a weekly basis OR that versus shyt..feel like we also need a summer of 95 20th anniversary thread on here: Bad Boys, The Rock, Batman Forever, Die Hard with a Vengeance, Casper, Power Rangers, etc
Maybe bi weekly or monthly is probably better. Weekly is too much imo and we saw What happened before.

Vote on 2 films with a poll
 

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Someone on Okayplayer posted this review...
"it's the best jurassic park sequel *mild spoilers*"

granted, that's a low bar. i hated the lost world's guts and i know most people hated JP3 (i liked it, but i can see the issues). this one is better, but the fact that they're keeping it away from critics should warn you to adjust your expectations accordingly.

let's get the bad stuff out of the way first. this does not feel like an attempt to revive the JP franchise. the characters are mostly one note and forgettable, their backgrounds and stories are pretty cliche, it feels like the kids exist completely out of an obligation to have some kids in every JP movie (stop), and it's hard to imagine any of them showing up in a future JP movie. that's a mistake to me. somewhere along the way, they got the idea that the JP movies are horror films, where it doesn't matter who the victims (or in this case, the humans) are. people just want to see jason slash up some sexy teens, so as long as he's there, you're giving the people what they want. i wish instead they would start introducing some human characters that we actually care about, some storylines we can follow through multiple movies.

i also wish some of these characters actually cared about dinosaurs. it just feels like the awe is gone from these movies, and not because we've seen all the CGI before, but because none of the characters genuinely care about dinosaurs. they're just doing their jobs, running this advanced zoo. where are the dinosaur experts? where are the scientists? part of what's great about the books (and the first JP) is that there is genuine awe about dinosaurs, people who have spent their lives studying bones and are now looking their life's work and all their childhood dreams in the eye. the scene with the raptor eggs hatching, the scene with the sick trike, the scene with the brachiosaur eating in the tree. those quiet moments where we get to look and marvel at holy crap that's a dinosaur, instead of just the carnage.

there was ample opportunity to do that here, but it ends up being maybe the biggest missed opportunity. we don't actually get to spend much time exploring the first fully functional dinosaur park put on screen. there's some fun stuff shown briefly, but you'll definitely want more. you'll want to stop the movie and climb into the screen and walk around in it, but you can't and you'll be mad about it.

in the way of negatives, i also have to mention that the main human villain has one of the absolute dumbest motivations of any character ever put on film. the fact that it passed through multiple writers without anybody stopping and saying, "can we do better than this?" is staggering. like, seriously, guys, can anybody think of a slightly less stupid idea than this, one that won't make the audience want to punch everyone involved in the face?

all right, now the good. and, relax, 'cause there's lots of it. irrfan khan is one of my favorite actors, and he's just having fun out there. nick from new girl scores some solid points too. i also like that chris pratt's character is actually smart, not just someone we're told is smart. he makes decisions that make you want to root for him, which is far and away the most important trait for any lead character in an action flick.

i know people are worried about the trained raptors. don't be. they (to my surprise) do it right, and it's actually one of the strengths of the movie. these aren't lapdogs. they're wild animals that, yes, take some instruction, but they're still always just right on the edge of ripping your limbs off. they do it so right. no one knows why the protocol in the raptor pen is for someone to risk their life to save a loose pig that's gonna be raptor food anyway (you've seen this scene in the trailers), but it ends up being a solid intro to the tenuous dynamic between pratt and his "soldiers."

the new lab-designed dino is pretty cool too, basically a souped up t. rex with some dope secrets. we never really understand dr. wu's motivation for keeping those secrets under wraps, but he probably should've told someone what this massive, extremely violent, "could kill us all and ruin our multibillion dollar park" dinosaur can do.

and, lastly, the finale might be the best pure action sequence of the franchise. it works beautifully on its own and also has a couple fun callbacks to the first film. if you're here for the carnage and the creative kills, you'll get it and you'll like it. that alone makes this worth the price of admission.

so, look, JW never reaches the heights of spielbergian horror of the original and never really attempts any of crichton's science. we get almost no discussion about the philosophical elements that make the books and the first film great-- what happens when the pace of innovation exceeds our understanding of what we're innovating. we also don't get any characters we care about. this isn't a reboot as much as a well-executed remake, and the lack of ambition to make something more than another dinos gone wild movie is kind of unfortunate.

but well-executed it is. the action is top-notch, the dinos are in top horror villain form, and it is-- in several places-- genuinely fun as hell. you will be entertained, even if we do get almost none of the quiet moments where we can sit back and wonder and imagine a time when dinosaurs ruled the earth.
 

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Whereas i disliked both equally :russ:

I feel that though, I don't think there's anything wrong with either approach, I just know what works for me. I go in blind, free of anyone's thoughts other than my own and let the movie do what it does. I think over the years I've become a little better at being able to do both though because I don't know how or why, but I read a Godzilla review or two before I saw it, maybe I was bored, and i definitely disagreed with the reviews. Not to say it was a bad movie but they were glowing reviews about a movie that in the end was just okay to me
Didn't you buy it :mjpls:
 

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I might just fukk around and read the JP books before I see this movie. :ld:
Two of my favorite books of all time. More philosophical, scientific, terrifying and gory than the movies.

For instance, the overarcing theme of the lost world is how changes in bevavioral patterns of species can and has proven to be the cause of their own demise (extinction).

Crichton posits genetic science (fukk it even science as a whole) as that change in our own behavior, which is a damn good bet on his part I reckon
 

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Two of my favorite books of all time. More philosophical, scientific, terrifying and gory than the movies.

For instance, the overarcing theme of the lost world is how changes in bevavioral patterns of species can and has proven to be the cause of their own demise (extinction).

Crichton posits genetic science (fukk it even science as a whole) as that change in our own behavior, which is a damn good bet on his part I reckon

:obama: I will definitely read it now. I thought the movie covered what happened in the book, so I really put off reading it.

Have you read The Andromeda Strain? :lupe: excellent book in my opinion, if you like Crichton's work.
 
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:obama: I will definitely read it now. I thought the movie covered what happened in the book, so I really put off reading it.

Have you read The Andromeda Strain? :lupe: excellent book in my opinion, if you like Crichton's work.
They actually took great liberty with the material from both books. Conceptually, each movie covers the basic trappings of the book.

Book 1: There's a park, people go, shyt goes down, evacuation

Book 2: Site B exists, dinos on it, another genetics company is trying to get their first.

Beyond that, the specifics are by and large completely different and better for the most part in the books. They're able to get away with more gore, and gloom and doom without having to cater to the expectations of delivering a hollywood movie/ending.

First 10-15 pages of JP set a dark tone for the book. You'll be reading like :gladbron::whoo::merchant:
 

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These raptors man :beli:

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Missing pretty much the only thing that classifies it as a raptor :dahell:
 

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They actually took great liberty with the material from both books. Conceptually, each movie covers the basic trappings of the book.

Book 1: There's a park, people go, shyt goes down, evacuation

Book 2: Site B exists, dinos on it, another genetics company is trying to get their first.

Beyond that, the specifics are by and large completely different and better for the most part in the books. They're able to get away with more gore, and gloom and doom without having to cater to the expectations of delivering a hollywood movie/ending.

First 10-15 pages of JP set a dark tone for the book. You'll be reading like :gladbron::whoo::merchant:
Agreed, JP books are dope...my fav one of his tho is Time line, I loved that book, but they fukked up the movie
 
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:obama: I will definitely read it now. I thought the movie covered what happened in the book, so I really put off reading it.

Have you read The Andromeda Strain? :lupe: excellent book in my opinion, if you like Crichton's work.
I haven't checked out Andromeda, read Congo a long time ago probably 4-5 years after the movie came out and loved it, read Timeline, loved it. I'm putting Andromeda on my short list though


Just read the synopsis for Andromeda:whoo:...Shocked it never got a movie adaptation
 
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