Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

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you don’t have to agree w/ him...but to act like you don’t understand his point or as if it’s not a possibility given your rebuttal is a bit ignorant...IF he has a point then yes of course writers could easily go back and rewrite shyt to make sure to include details that make it correlate to the comics...what he’s saying is not unfathomable...I had the same thought while watching the movie...and OT but I felt the same way about ‘venom’ too

They ain't that dumb, just snarky and disingenuous.

I saw the ended seen where he offs DeNiro on the TV show and that's it.

Don't feel the need to see it either.

Honestly, it didn't need to be a Joker movie.

Like I said before, this was conceived as a different movie, and they made the main character the Joker, and called it the joker to sell tickets.

Remove the makeup, name and keep everything else just the way it was, this movie wouldn't have made half of what it did at the box office but it would have still been critically acclaimed.

First of all...if only to see some dope cinematography and dope acting, watch the whole movie at least once. Joaquin does his thing but that Murray death scene was wack, especially giving the build up to that moment.

But as to the bold...the lead actor and the director have basically said some of the same shyt yet people in here will fight tooth and nail, going even as far to say when Todd himself stated he wanted to keep the references and connections to the comics to a minimum and was expecting backlash from fans who noticed the disconnect...they say he's just trying to make his film sound more artsy.

The only reason this is a Scorsese rip off hiding behind Batman Lore instead of film called "Arthur" is because his intention was to subvert and take a dig at the comic book genre, nobody was going to go see "Arthur" or any movie like that in droves on it's own merits, and that was his point, it was a misdirect, a hell of a swerve the he himself was predicting he'd get some backlash for from fans of the comics.
 
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Yeah, I mean, does this mean we shouldn't make movies about heroes or villains without superpowers because if you take out the name and references to the comics, the movie could be about anybody?

shyt, make a movie about Punisher, but change his name from Frank Castle, remove any references from the comics and put him in some different clothes and it's a movie about a guy killing people for revenge, something we've seen many times before.

No, what it means is if you're just using the comic book IP to sell your movie because it wouldn't get seen otherwise...you're being dishonest and will probably piss some people off.

The Equalizer might as well be Nick Fury, shyt I think he'd body Nick TBH lol, I guess it would have done better at the box office had they just called it "Fury".

Let's rip off Shutter Island, put a couple question marks on the set and call it The Riddler.

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